robstuff
- 25 Jul 2005 14:22
A Multi-bagger if ever there was one!!! once this hits the papers, see it double.. treble...see announcement
robstuff
- 17 Aug 2005 13:31
- 65 of 92
krypton, you could be forgiven to think that, but the shares were only very thinly traded up to around 65-70p which is when the real interest started. It may well be that holders up to then who had seen the sp do nothing but decline over the year got out but if you had been holding through those bad times and then the company announces that they have cash worth five or six times the value of the shares, would you have sold? No, I think as there is a classic downside which adds to the risk (i.e. it being tied up in Brazil) gives the traders opportunity to raise and lower the price by large percentages on relatively slim trading but there is nothing stopping this co's share price being marked up again with a little buying, in fact a rising price will often attract more buyers and so it continues going up without the need for further news. It will only take a small amount of buying as it is not very liquid, and if it got written about in another publication or some news was released on their progress, it would be written up very quickly indeed. If it was announced the cash was being released, then nobody will get a chance to get in at these levels and within a blink it will be 2.50 so you take the gamble, are you in before or after that crucial announcement or press article. Looking at the trades today so far, there are 15 times the amount of buys to sells, the price will have to rise if that continues.
krypton
- 17 Aug 2005 13:47
- 66 of 92
Robstuff
Points well made.
I agree that an upwardly mobile share price will automatically attract a momentum of it's own but, as you also point out, the huge majority of purchases today (a factor of 15 to 1) do not appear to have made any dent on the 6p spread on the shares.
I am keeping a constant watch on it though !!
K******
robstuff
- 17 Aug 2005 15:16
- 67 of 92
Yep, that's been the case for the past few days with buys outnumbering sells, it may be next week, it maybe several mths but value will be restored :) best not to watch it too closely,i'll log out for a few weeks ;)
superrod
- 17 Aug 2005 20:54
- 68 of 92
Rob
nearly made a VERY large error.....been watching and watching, buy after monotonous buy. spread a reasonable 55/56. online quote 55.7,then 55.9, then 56. just about to take the plunge when 5p is slashed off the bid. anyone got any ideas why?
bought PRTY instead for 58.5 :o))
R33skyline
- 17 Aug 2005 23:27
- 69 of 92
superrod
Go read III or advfn this is gonna rocket ..
R33skyline
- 17 Aug 2005 23:29
- 70 of 92
robstuff
- 18 Aug 2005 09:17
- 71 of 92
You have made a mistake superrod, why you think the spread is important i don't know. The best time to buy is when it's a large spread as it means the sellers are being shafted by mms and a rise is on the cards, when it happens the bid comes up so you could have got in at 55, now 62. Worrying about a spread is pointless, it's what the share is worth that's important and true value always comes through in the end, watch this go back through 1 and beyond very soon.
robstuff
- 18 Aug 2005 09:24
- 72 of 92
There will be many wanting to reduce their average price paid like me - topped up twice in fact which is what i did with YOO recently which paid off handsomely. This may be a medium term play, and so i'm confident that come a few mths, my holding will be worth a lot more, i'm not worried about short term volatility here.
robstuff
- 18 Aug 2005 09:39
- 73 of 92
Notice with this stock, the trades reported late as sells are in fact buys (just in case you hadn't noticed) which seems to be a mm practice to put people off the scent and attract sellers. What a game isn't it?
Oakapples142
- 18 Aug 2005 09:46
- 74 of 92
Agreed "robstuff" they do seem to a better execution of plan than do the England Football team.
BOOBOO
- 18 Aug 2005 11:45
- 75 of 92
Folks, what the hell does this announcement mean????? Have we been completely duped??
paulmasterson1
- 18 Aug 2005 12:23
- 76 of 92
Booboo Hi,
It means they have some very BIG aquisitions to do due dilligence on, thats why they have done the placing for so much money.
Once they have done the due dilligence, they will spend the cash in Brazil, and have money earning assets in Europe, and the price will move closer to a 20% discount to the NAV of 2.40.
Stick with it.
Cheers,
PM
wilbs
- 18 Aug 2005 12:28
- 77 of 92
I got on board yesterday. I don't wanna miss this one.
krypton
- 18 Aug 2005 12:41
- 78 of 92
As usual the institutions are able to get in at 48p while small investors are left wondering what is going on !!!
On the plus side the fact that more institutions have come on board will result is higher profile for the Company.
For those on the sidelines I suspect now is as good a time as any to get involved in the Company.
The removal of the uncertainty was worth missing out a few pence on the buy price and I'm finally in at 63p.
K******
paulmasterson1
- 18 Aug 2005 12:46
- 79 of 92
Krypton Hi,
Agreed, and the way the market has taken this is very positive, if the assets CCO are looking at are good enough for those taking the placing stock, to give CCO several million pounds to do the due dilligence, they are good enough for me !
We could see 1 again very soon methinks :)
Cheers,
PM
paulmasterson1
- 18 Aug 2005 15:37
- 80 of 92
An example of another investment company, clearly showing that the current CCO discount to NAV of 77% is a joke .... it cannot possibly stay like this for ever ....
"At the end of 2004, the shares were quoted at a discount of 5 per cent to the net asset value. By the end of June, this had become a premium of 1. 6 per cent."
http://www.companyannouncements.net/cgi-bin/articles/20050818151616P962D.html
paulmasterson1
- 18 Aug 2005 17:00
- 81 of 92
Hi All,
Hopefully some good press tomorrow, to get this one moving ....
Cheers,
PM
robstuff
- 18 Aug 2005 18:08
- 82 of 92
Didn't I just know there was something going on with the price being worked down even though there were more buys than sells, it's all clear now, in order to Place shares at a rock bottom price guaranteeing the success of the issue. Now watch this rise and those institutions make their easy money!!!!
superrod
- 18 Aug 2005 21:23
- 83 of 92
robstuff......i made a mistake?
bought PRTY and sold it a day later for 274 clear profit ( and if TDW online trading wasnt cocked up all day i would still be holding them, because there is far greater control trading online).
as for the spread not being important?..........suppose id just bought 20k cco for 56p, knowing that i could sell for 55.3p? an immediate loss of 140 plus expenses.
then the bid drops 5p......there goes another 1000.
like i said, ive been trading 20 years and intend to trade for another 20. ive had enough " paper losses" to know they invariably turn into the real thing.
i traded cco a short while ago ( buying around 74p) escaped with a tenner overall profit. boy would i be gutted if i was still holding that deal.
i remain sceptical wrt this windfall, but will be keeping a buy position at the ready. i dont mind missing the first 50p of a 150p+ potential rise.
thanks btw for the c&p from elsewhere with a few explanations ( maybe ).
good luck all and BE CAREFUL.
Oakapples142
- 19 Aug 2005 09:05
- 84 of 92
Cannot find the EPIC for Langbar International and CCO now showing no details.
Can anyone help ?