Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Best job ever for Alf/Bamber!

You get to mess about, have sex, take drugs and alcohol AND YOU GET PAID FOR IT. At last, after 30 years on the dole, I can see a career for him... undercover police officer.

Britain poised for Syria air strikes after Labour revolt against Jeremy Corbyn

Up to 60 Labour MPs could back military intervention in Syria in defiance of Jeremy Corbyn on the basis of a UN resolution calling for "combat by all means" to be used to wipe out Isil

Britain is poised to join air strikes against Isil in Syria after senior Labour MPs publicly defied Jeremy Corbyn and pledged cross-party support for international action in the wake of the Paris terrorist attacks.

Hilary Benn, the shadow foreign secretary, welcomed a UN security council resolution - passed on Friday night - calling for "combat by all means" to be used to wipe out Isil. The resolution was passed unanimously at the UN last night.

David Cameron called the unanimous UN decision an “important moment”. He said he would build the case for air strikes in Syria, adding that Britain “cannot expect others to shoulder the burdens and risks of protecting this country”.

He said: “The international community has come together and has resolved to defeat this evil, which threatens people of every country and every religion. Today’s vote shows beyond doubt the breadth of international support for doing more in Syria and for decisive action to eradicate Isil.”

France announced after the vote that it was tripling attacks against Isil in Syria, with air strikes launched from the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. “This text is a call for international mobilisation,” said François Delattre, France’s ambassador to the UN.

Labour insiders said that the resolution, reinforced by Friday night's vote, is likely to be enough to convince as many as 60 Labour MPs of the need to extend RAF air strikes to Syria - something which would boost David Cameron's chances of passing a vote in the Commons.

Shadow cabinet ministers say that military intervention is even more likely after the party's own legal advice suggested that there is a "sound basis" for air strikes even without the UN approval.

Mr Corbyn looked increasingly isolated after Labour MPs used a series of broadcasts to defy their leader over his shambolic security strategy in what looked like an organised coup.

Liz Kendall, a former Labour leadership contender, said he had failed "to rise to the challenge" posed by the Paris terror attacks.

One shadow minister said that the week has demonstrated that Mr Corbyn is "unelectable" and is likely to be forced out as Labour leader before the election in 2020.

He said: "The worrying thing is that the Labour Party is being painted as untrustworthy on on national security and defence. If you are not trusted on that, you are unelectable.

"The last election they didn't trust us on the economy, now they don't trust us to keep them safe."

Just spill the beans H/S.

Once again the left is obsessed with the wrong things!

Don't change the subject, just spill the beans.

What exactly is Cameron considering doing against ISIS ISIL etc.? Please inform us, or go back to play with the juniors?

Is Cameron volunteering to be the first his feet on the ground, with corporal Hayes and private Manuel in toe?

Bet my bottom dollar they won't.

Don't expect their cohorts, or families will be involved either. (Though they might make a few bob on the clean up. There must be a good deal somewhere.)

Tub-thumpers.

Have a look at Syrian civilian casualties from "effective" bombing.

Ask someone, which is the best way of being killed?

Having your head cut off or being blown apart or partially apart by a drone or missile.


Ask their kids, now and 20 years down the line.

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Let us have a look at the plans before the sheep vote for Cameron's, plan of combat before it is changed before a U-turn.

As MPs queued up to criticise their leader, Mr Corbyn was left isolated on the frontbench with only close friend Diane Abbott and junior shadow climate change minister Barry Gardiner

He got some backing for his don't shoot to kill policy :)

Unlike the "Con" artists who deal in quantity over quality as usual I expect.

Stan you can put it any way you like ,he got NO support ,

that's because when you are confronted by people who not only want to gun down crowds but they then blow themselves up it seems wise to shoot them rather than reason with them . Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete loony as is Corbyn .

Quality? Surely not the bloated Diane Flabbot. Corbyn seems to have gathered up quite few of the political rejects to join him in his Cabinet.

Corbyn was voted in by Labour activists. He may have gained a good majority amongst the lefty loonies, but those who voted for him add up to 0.5% of the electorate.

The political ideolgy of Jihadi Jez and Ms Flabbot is highlighted when you consider that when they were a romantic item, they went on a cycling tour of EAST Germany.

JB
that's because when you are confronted by people who not only want to gun down crowds but they then blow themselves

What are you basis for making the judgement?

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If you have a son or daughter running through a crowd because they are late for work with a hoody on and a tennis racket stuff in her/his jacket do you hope the policy shoot on sight?


It ain't simply stopping, maiming or killing, but the grounds for the "decision making" and the "proportionate" action, if and where it is deemed necessary.

Mouthing off "Shoot to Kill" without safeguards is a dangerous policy.


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Perhaps, if you listen to what Corbyn actual says, and consider his possible reasoning (right, or wrong), before pouring out false interpretations and media claptrap and remarks from disappointed labour politicians, who have had their ambitions frustrated your remarks would be more interesting.

Perhaps, it would be also advisable to ignore the mutterings of tory party and media hacks, who spend their time smearing those with a different opinion to the official con party line you may be able to propose sensible alternatives to those being presented by your by your dear leader at the moment. I.E. before his next U-turn.

But try doing it without relying on party political dogma and recall the results the “Shoot to Kill” policy of “Bloody Sunday”.

But why is Cameron ducking putting his policy for a vote in the Palace.

Is he thinking the Defence committee members will speak against it or that many in the tory party will reject it.

The Con party supposed to be in control is out of itself.

A party without confidence!

..And once again H/S, questions to be answered.

stan - i really don't know why you keep repeating your same stupid post
no one except you and fred have any interest in this bit of muckraking nonsense

and if you think it's a way of deflecting criticism away from the unelectable beard, then you couldn't be more wrong

i'm actually beginning to wonder if the beard will even be leading the labour party come new year, never mind at the next election

I wasn't talking to you bamber so get back to post 65008.

syria bombing vote
the beard and fred can continue waffling in their land of make-believe where a friendly chat over tea and cucumber sandwiches resolves all problems

however, i think there is little doubt that parliament will support the extension of bombing against IS, and i would not be at all surprised to see a large majority in favour

on the other hand, i suspect that a vote for british boots on the ground would not meet with such approval

is it morally right to approve anonymous bombing but not troops on the ground?
no

fortunately, i guess, for better or worse, the russians seem happy enough to provide the grunt, while "we" provide air support and intelligence

will "the west" inflict enough damage on IS to demoralise and thus demolish it?
probably not, but with luck, it will be sufficiently successful that this grotesque pretend-religious movement can be contained

for sure IS cannot just be left to continue its course of indiscriminate mayhem

On your bike Bamber the footy results are about to come through -):