Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

As MPs queued up to criticise their leader, Mr Corbyn was left isolated on the frontbench with only close friend Diane Abbott and junior shadow climate change minister Barry Gardiner

He got some backing for his don't shoot to kill policy :)

Unlike the "Con" artists who deal in quantity over quality as usual I expect.

Stan you can put it any way you like ,he got NO support ,

that's because when you are confronted by people who not only want to gun down crowds but they then blow themselves up it seems wise to shoot them rather than reason with them . Anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete loony as is Corbyn .

Quality? Surely not the bloated Diane Flabbot. Corbyn seems to have gathered up quite few of the political rejects to join him in his Cabinet.

Corbyn was voted in by Labour activists. He may have gained a good majority amongst the lefty loonies, but those who voted for him add up to 0.5% of the electorate.

The political ideolgy of Jihadi Jez and Ms Flabbot is highlighted when you consider that when they were a romantic item, they went on a cycling tour of EAST Germany.

JB
that's because when you are confronted by people who not only want to gun down crowds but they then blow themselves

What are you basis for making the judgement?

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If you have a son or daughter running through a crowd because they are late for work with a hoody on and a tennis racket stuff in her/his jacket do you hope the policy shoot on sight?


It ain't simply stopping, maiming or killing, but the grounds for the "decision making" and the "proportionate" action, if and where it is deemed necessary.

Mouthing off "Shoot to Kill" without safeguards is a dangerous policy.


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Perhaps, if you listen to what Corbyn actual says, and consider his possible reasoning (right, or wrong), before pouring out false interpretations and media claptrap and remarks from disappointed labour politicians, who have had their ambitions frustrated your remarks would be more interesting.

Perhaps, it would be also advisable to ignore the mutterings of tory party and media hacks, who spend their time smearing those with a different opinion to the official con party line you may be able to propose sensible alternatives to those being presented by your by your dear leader at the moment. I.E. before his next U-turn.

But try doing it without relying on party political dogma and recall the results the “Shoot to Kill” policy of “Bloody Sunday”.

But why is Cameron ducking putting his policy for a vote in the Palace.

Is he thinking the Defence committee members will speak against it or that many in the tory party will reject it.

The Con party supposed to be in control is out of itself.

A party without confidence!

..And once again H/S, questions to be answered.

stan - i really don't know why you keep repeating your same stupid post
no one except you and fred have any interest in this bit of muckraking nonsense

and if you think it's a way of deflecting criticism away from the unelectable beard, then you couldn't be more wrong

i'm actually beginning to wonder if the beard will even be leading the labour party come new year, never mind at the next election

I wasn't talking to you bamber so get back to post 65008.

syria bombing vote
the beard and fred can continue waffling in their land of make-believe where a friendly chat over tea and cucumber sandwiches resolves all problems

however, i think there is little doubt that parliament will support the extension of bombing against IS, and i would not be at all surprised to see a large majority in favour

on the other hand, i suspect that a vote for british boots on the ground would not meet with such approval

is it morally right to approve anonymous bombing but not troops on the ground?
no

fortunately, i guess, for better or worse, the russians seem happy enough to provide the grunt, while "we" provide air support and intelligence

will "the west" inflict enough damage on IS to demoralise and thus demolish it?
probably not, but with luck, it will be sufficiently successful that this grotesque pretend-religious movement can be contained

for sure IS cannot just be left to continue its course of indiscriminate mayhem

On your bike Bamber the footy results are about to come through -):

William Hill are giving 11/1 on Corbyn leaving this year.

One of my sons has gone to a firework party on an allotment site. Barbeque and fireworks. There is no toilet on the site, so there have been various suggestions. The most popular involves Corbyn. He has an adjacent patch to the one they are using. Several people suggested peeing and s******g on his patch. Childish I know, but very satisfying. I was hoping that they might burn an efigy of Corbyn, but the renter of their patch is a lefty and won't hear of it.

One odd thing though. Corbyn lives in Islington, just off Seven Sisters Rd in Holloway. His allotment is in Barnet. I wonder how he got an allotment two boroughs away from where he lives.

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stan - i really don't know why you keep repeating your same stupid post
no one except you and fred have any interest in this bit of muckraking nonsense



But you and hays, are constantly muckraking making false aspersions about Corbyn and many other politicians's characters or arguments in an attempt to diminish their actual arguments. (What I see as a typical characteristic of many of today's tory said supporters.)

Again, it the actions suggested in the article supports the opinion of many of the abuse in the conservative party during the election period to suppress information and actions for political ends.

Much of what Cameron's modus operandi seems to be for his political and personal gain.

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A cynical abuse.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/corbyns-favourability-rating-falls-in-comres-poll-for-the-independent-on-sunday-a6743516.html

Twice as many voters have an unfavourable view of Jeremy Corbyn as have a favourable one, according to a ComRes opinion poll for The Independent on Sunday – an 8-point increase in his unfavourable rating since September, when he was elected Labour leader.

After Mr Corbyn appeared reluctant to say he would order British police to shoot to kill if faced with a terrorist attack similar to that in Paris, the public are twice as likely to say they trust David Cameron to keep them and their family safe (39 per cent) as they are to say they trust Mr Corbyn (17 per cent).

The change in Labour support “if there were a general election tomorrow” may not be significant in itself, down 2 points, but the Conservative lead of 15 points is the highest recorded by any pollster since January 2010.

.. And your answers are H/S

The really funny part of the Independent article is that Corbyn is even more unpopular with the public than Osborne.