It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

Come off it rf , how many fancied teams were out after the second round of games this year when the first round was groups of four ?

And on a brighter note Cardiff have scored their first goal of the season in the 3-1 home defeat by Norwich in the Micky Mouse Cup.

Next three games are Arsenal , Chelsea and Man City so likely to be near the top after those ;-)

Groups of three are different Dil.....and I understand that the plan is that there will be a group stage with three countries followed by knockout matches after that involving 48 teams in total......an example ; England draw Nigeria and japan in their group.....you are not laughing......results...England 2-Nigeria 0.....Japan 3-Nigeria 0.....England 0-Japan 0....: Japan go though...England out without losing a game....(like in 1982) !.....there is no second chance....like in the four nation groups : you can afford the luxury of accidentally losing a game but still progressing to the next round....Spain did that and won the world cup in 2010 !......not a good idea by FIFA at all in my opinion !...

I understand what your saying rf but if you seeded the top 16 teams at this years World Cup in groups of 3 I don't think it would have changed much.

A much bigger worry is the last group group match being thrown.

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Burnley's Reserves and 3rd team play each other tonight in Wales I see https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45351104

Live Radio coverage on R5 in the motherland.

Looks like your third team got well and truly stuffed , Stan ,Wales looked v good .

That clown Vokes didn't play Stan , obviously as we scored 4.

The youngsters we got coming through give me confidence that we can actually make a WC finals next time around.

Ampedu of Chelsea was awesome and he's still only 17 , Brooks of Bournemouth looks like our next Aaron Ramsey , Tom Lawrence gets better every game and it's hard for me say this but the young full back from Scumsea who scored on his debut looks the real deal too.

Be a better test Sunday against Denmark away , Ireland were awful.

I think Spain are very beatable now !.....England have to carry on from the world cup...…..

... where they did so well in losing to Belgium twice and Croatia , drawing with Columbia , beating the mighty Tunisia in the last minute and beating Sweden and Panama.

A. Ireland were forced to field several squad and semi fit players because of injuries.

B. “........ Wales to make the WC finals next time around?” You should really keep your Ribina consumption to a realistic level 😂

C. As for “only” scoring 4 goals, if you had played “super Sam” from the start you would have scored 6 at least.

The WC semi-finalists England chances against Spain are of course very very good in my humble.

I nearly forgot Dil, did sick note Giggs actually turn up for your game?

Sick note regularly turned up for competitive matches Stan but missed all the friendlies bar one when he was about 30.

How can you be semi injured , that's rubbish and as for squad players they had one guy making his competitive debut and we had three including the 17 year old who was man of the match.

We play Spain next month so let's see who can stick the most on them us or your lot.

And everyone in the country should get behind Southgate in his quest to reduce the number of overseas players in our leagues.

Dill please pay attention I didn’t say “semi-injury” I said “semi-fit” I.E. carrying an injury but thought not serious enough not to be selected if really needed.

As for Giggs...once a sick note always a sick note.

If your fit enough to play your fit.

Not if your club is an established Premier and European qualifying club your not, we at the high table of football demand a higher level of fitness... unlike some I could mention 😆

Please don't knock Ryan Giggs…..was world class welsh player......anyway.....which bloody channel is the blinkin' England game on ?…..grrrr….

Damn ...2-1 down....need a touch of the Sir Francis Drakes here.....finish the game of bowls...and then lick the Spanish.....come to think of it ...that's what the retired footballer said to the Iberian porn girl......

Just can't seem to beat the main countries.....without seeing the game I can guess it's a lack of guile and too much of the big pass and big shot style of play....the premiership is one thing but at the national level you need to be able to pull opposing players around a bit....

First home defeat in an international tournament in eleven years for England so not to bad in context.

It's on Sky only rf , they have the rights to England games , but highlights i think on ITV .