Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Quite right even if Farage had gone on the street like that he would have protesters , but not a soul does anything , disgraceful where were the Police .

wake up fred!
it's no news that i regularly read at least some of the articles in the guardian ..... mind you, i do get it as freeby on line every morning :-)

And the men preaching hatred in the street , if i started a row with them the police would jump on me for causing trouble ..
What has happened to the UK ? we are finished where is the spirit from the second world war .
It will get much worse soon in Europe and the UK ,the leaders are all raving bonkers and Merkel should be put in jail ..

This is why we are in this position too much tolerance of these people from the start , most probably get housed and benefits , if they hate us so much why don't they feck orf .

fred - are you still advocating "your" open door policy for all who manage to get across the mediterranean or sneak into europe through some other route?

Someones saying it's a Russian jet maybe we'll have a new problem if this ends.

cynic ,why do you bother ,i squelched Fred ,he is only tying to wind you up .
You should have seen the Channel 4 programme last night .

Manuel,

Reread previous posts.

Advocated "transit" camps and European and UN (World Wide) cooperation on a humanitarian basis.

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Better than bombing more "exiles" out of from Syria and such.

Jimmy it would be interesting to know if those women went into work today after that .

THE POLICE REPORT CRIME TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC
ARE THE MET POLICE TAKING THE PISS ,
WHY HAVE THEY NOT ACTED AND ARRESTED THE SCUM

JB, Seems wound up enough!

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Russia was warned earlier by Turkey.

It may be a deliberate action on the part of Turkey's Government to put a division between "West" and Russia rather than a "mistake".

Wonder what Russia is considering as a response!

Well they did destroy Erdogans sons oil tankers supplying ISIS with oil so I suppose .

VIC , they don't have jobs ,you are paying for them .

Manuel,

I had noticed with surprise.

I thought there is still time for you to reform.

I have to admit I read the Guardian or some of it on line.

Must admit I feel a bit of embarrassment doing so and considering a donation.

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Interesting comment on the pilots of the down Russian plane may be held as hostages.

How will that play at home for Putin.

UMMH.

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JB,

You and the tinker seem to be printing "hate" on this thread and are tolerated.

Manuel,

Looking at The Syrian problem from a "safe" distance it strikes me as a bloody confusion.

One thing I was taught when younger was when everything seemed confused about me was to sit back and think.

Sometimes a pattern could be seen in the confusion making the problems easier to resolve.

That seems to be going on at the moment.

Fools rush in where other fear to tread.

fred - the humanitarian aspect of transit camps within europe is fine ..... unfortunately, the idea is badly flawed thanks to the murderous intent of the few

on the other hand, the concept of transit camps in/around syria itself is surely a far better concept, for at least those seeking asylum (all of them!) can be screened with at least some degree of thoroughness and accuracy

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who are the current suspects for shooting down this russian military jet - and in turkish air space?
at time of writing, nothing has been confirmed

turkey avoid do not go their for hols its not safe you risk being killed

the turkish border with syria has long been a danger zone, so nothing new there at all
however, there is no good reason to shun anywhere west of say antalya ...... no more risk there than going to somewhere like dubai

I've no doubt Fred is giving his usual love a terrorist and free speech crap after reading the posts on the channel 4 programme this morning .

surprisingly not .... he's actually being quite sensible for once, even if i don't necessarily agree with his viewpoint - and yes, there are of course the usual stupid anti-tory snipes, but those i just glide past