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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 24 Nov 2015 11:18 - 65187 of 81564

The photo that sums up Jeremy Corbyn's relationship with Labour MPs

cynic - 24 Nov 2015 11:22 - 65188 of 81564

i confess that if i was obliged to live in usa, i'ld opt for the likes of SF or perhaps parts of the eastern seaboard ...... i also believe chicago has much going for it

Fred1new - 24 Nov 2015 11:46 - 65189 of 81564

Is it out of date.

Good old Cameron:

Brings back memories.

Fred1new - 24 Nov 2015 11:48 - 65190 of 81564

For Haze:

iturama - 24 Nov 2015 11:56 - 65191 of 81564

San Diego is a nice place. But so is Maine, NH. Friendly folk all over. I made and I have kept very good friends. The son of one is flying out of Lakenheath at present. My next door neighbour in Texas.

Fred1new - 24 Nov 2015 11:56 - 65192 of 81564

I await the budget with interest:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/23/budget-deficit-could-hit-40bn-pounds-autumn-statement-george-osborne

UK budget deficit could be £40bn in 2020, academics warn
Ahead of chancellor’s autumn statement, City University report says Treasury has underestimated impact of welfare and department cuts
UK Treasury building in London
Richard Murphy said: ‘The very low multiplier the Treasury uses assumes that cuts in government spending will stimulate growth.’ Photograph: Oli Scarff/Getty Images
Phillip Inman Economics correspondent

George Osborne could be forced to borrow billions of pounds more than forecast by 2020 if he sticks with spending cuts that will hit economic growth, according to a report by City University.

With only days to go before the chancellor’s autumn statement, the report says the Treasury has underestimated the impact of welfare and departmental spending cuts on the broader economy and especially cuts to public sector investment.

Without a boost to public infrastructure, private sector businesses will limit their own investment plans, leading to lower productivity and depressed GDP growth over the next four years.


By 2020, the government will be forced to report a £40bn deficit instead of the planned £10bn surplus, the report concludes, undermining Osborne’s fiscal charter, which dictates that governments borrow only in times of distress.

Relentless cuts won’t help Britain’s long-term economic prospects
Letters: The policy of relentless cuts to public services is a suicide belt for British society and its economy, inflicted by its own, homegrown ideologist
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The study by two academics from City University comes only days before the chancellor is expected to tell parliament that he plans to achieve a budget surplus by 2020 from a mixture of cuts to departmental spending and welfare and from higher tax receipts, especially income tax and national insurance.

But he is already off track in 2015-16 after a run of poor figures for the public finances. Last week, the Office for National Statistics reported that higher government spending and lower corporation tax receipts than expected in October had sent borrowing to its highest for that month since 2009.

cynic - 24 Nov 2015 12:18 - 65193 of 81564

whatever the budget sets out, the lefties won't like it
however, i shall be more interested to read a balanced view if such a thing will be possible

for myself, i'ld certainly like to see some softening of some aspects of the tax credit cuts, or at least the timing and method of their application

Fred1new - 24 Nov 2015 12:33 - 65194 of 81564

Ask Georgie boy and Wavy Dave and the Hazyone.

Should find some agreement there!


lolol

cynic - 24 Nov 2015 12:48 - 65195 of 81564

oh hohoho!
they'll make a santa out of you yet :-)

ExecLine - 24 Nov 2015 12:56 - 65196 of 81564

For those of us who are ignorant of what ISIS actually is and what it stands for, here's a very interesting site:

What ISIS really wants

Basically, the Islamic State follows a distinctive variety of Islamic beliefs and particularly so, about the path to the Day of Judgement

The web site explains what exactly is going on. Read it carefully and when you read it:

Try to make sure you learn what a 'caliphate' actually is.

Try to learn how Muslims can actually 'serve the ISIS caliphate'.

Importantly, you will learn that a caliphate cannot properly exist without it having its own 'territory'. The web site has an indicative map.

Try to learn what an apostate is and what ISIS reckon the punishment has to be for apostates - and why.

Try to understand, that according to ISIS, why modern Muslims are most certainly 'apostates'. Similarly, so are most governments too.

Once you've got this far, how's about you think they they got it a bit wrong and should call some (most?) people just 'sinners' and not 'apostates'?

Try to understand what 'takfiri doctrine' is and what it has to do with purifying the world.

Try to learn what a 'jihad' is and also what 'jihadism' is too.

Try to understand the ISIS attitude to slavery and how it came about.

Find out what "Yazidi women and children' are.

Find out about enslaving families of the 'kuffar' and what 'kuffar' are.

We all need to cotton on to the fact, that although lots of Muslims try to follow the Shiite path in their faith, ISIS regards thje Shiites as 'an innovative fashion'. Such innovation denies the purification of the Koran.

Importantly, you will begin to understand, that if people take the view that certain core texts and Islamic teachings are no longer valid (because of say, 'modernity') how holding such a view is most definitely taken as an act of apostasy.

If you want to learn a bit more about this stuff, try:

What Motivates Terrorists

I personally, am an atheist. Having read a lot of this ISIS stuff it smacks a lot of the most common rubbishy dogma that just about every church of any religion postulates, namely:

"Life begins only when you die but specifically, ONLY IF YOU BELONG TO THIS (OUR) CHURCH (RELIGION)!"

That's why I really do believe, that the very best way to go, is to smash ALL religions for the daft buncum which they actually all are.

From scientific proof, we now know how the universe grew out of nothing and so it did not need any kind of a 'creator god' to start it off. If there isn't a creator god, then there cannot possibly be any kind of afterlife. If there isn't an afterlife, then we all ought to get on, as pleasantly and enjoyably as we possibly can with the enjoyment of 'our own pure being' in this one.

I do think governments everywhere feel convinced they need religions to 'teach moraility to the masses' and without them, law and order would just break down as a good morality collapses. I believe this to be utter rubbish too.

MaxK - 24 Nov 2015 14:14 - 65197 of 81564

Arsis will be coming for you Exec!

TANKER - 24 Nov 2015 14:14 - 65198 of 81564

barmy Obama is a racist the worst president ever a coward .he has much to do with Syria a coward and that is the best I can say about the man

TANKER - 24 Nov 2015 14:15 - 65199 of 81564

turkey tells you can never trust a muslim never turn your back on one

Fred1new - 24 Nov 2015 14:21 - 65200 of 81564

That's why I really do believe, that the very best way to go, is to smash ALL religions for the daft buncum which they actually all are.



What are you going to replace religions with?

And if you do is that a new religion, or just a belief?

I have a belief that my happiness depends on pulling wings off flies and baiting Manuel.



(The spelling checker suggested biting instead of baiting, but I thought that was going to far.)

jimmy b - 24 Nov 2015 14:39 - 65201 of 81564

ahoj - 24 Nov 2015 14:41 - 65202 of 81564

Strange situation over there. Am I wrong to say:

US, Russia, France, Iran, Iraq, Kurds are fighting against ISIS. UK is joining too.
US, Turkey, Saudi are helping oppositions against Syria.
ISIS is fighting against Syria.

Turkey is fighting against Kurds and Syria. Turkey said before that Kurds are more of a problem than ISIS for them.
ISIS are fighting against Kurds.

ISIS is selling oil. Not clear to whom, but certainly one of the Syrian neighbours should know.

TANKER - 24 Nov 2015 14:53 - 65203 of 81564

well we now know why they shot down the plane turkey was buying oil from the terrorists Russia have blown up the tankers turkey not getting cheap oil via terrorists

bastards

VICTIM - 24 Nov 2015 15:04 - 65204 of 81564

The worrying thing about all this is the different factions out there causing trouble are being distributed all over the World to all different Nations . It may look humane to take these people in , but in the future it could be absolute hell .

Haystack - 24 Nov 2015 15:06 - 65205 of 81564

Newspaper comment about Corbyn being abandoned during strategic defence review speech by Cameron

Long before the end, the senior Shadow Cabinet ministers had scarpered, leaving Mr Corbyn with just one unknown MP for company. Where was his ally John McDonnell? Stephen Pound and Vernon Coaker did finally arrive. They sat beside Mr Corbyn like hospital visitors at the bedside of a coma patient.

cynic - 24 Nov 2015 15:16 - 65206 of 81564

fred - i don't know how good you are at pulling wings off flies, but you're not much chop at baiting me :-)

as you will have noticed, i rarely bother to respond to you when you're in loony-corbyn-mode

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btw, you need teeth to bite :-)
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