Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic I read what you say, but IMHO all the Remoners ( well, many...) have a vested interest....like those few/many in the HoL with EU-benefits/Pensions . . . which have the provision that they are lost ( So I read, elsewhere) if they promote anything against the EU..... THAT is almost the opposite of a Democratic Institution . . . and I'm surprised that the HoL ever allowed it to permeate their Institution.

-in answer to other aspects of Postings here.... I don't know what lies ahead . . . World Events are unpredictable . . . so nothing can be certain . . . except we (David Cameron MP) were sent packing when we raised the issue of "Borders" . . . . I must declare I have no-problem with foreign Surgeons, Midwives, Engineers and similar, entering the UK, provided they agree to Work and Behave themselves.
Where I have issues is the multitudes of average-folk that don't appear to be doing anything useful, yet who swamp our townships, schools and NHS to the extent that some English Folks say they feel "second class" - as Officialdom is gradually biased against ( so these folks believe!) the peoples that made Britain Great - in the first place.

There are several Policicos ( like Tony Blair [wash my mouth].), who may (since I cannot know), be more interested in their Political Revival . . . and see the EU are a suitable intercontinental missile to hang onto..... as it reaches for Global Power.

Sadly the many in UK that see the EU rather differently, are watching in amazement as the EU refuses to adapt to new situations . . . the Migrant-Crisis being just one that's been prominent . . . .
The EU has brought many benefits . . . . "Standards" springs to mind . . . but in a Modern World of TRADE, these are likely to be beneficial to all - so it isn't ONLY the EU that could have done this....rather that no-one else wanted to be embroiled . . . . one wonders what our own BSI actually does, other than correct spelling mistakes.
There are areas where the EU has failed to be an influence, yet I'm unaware of any Official method for pursuing my ideas . . . so I guess others don't either.

The EU is in a great state of change ( but NOT in Brussels naturally ), maybe caused by past policies involving Manufacture . . . some of our own capacity has moved to impoverished Countries, so I'm guessing we and the Italians (=Fiat) are not alone in this "meddling" - Sadly the Italians/Greeks/Spanish/Portuguese have suffered more, but appear not to attempt a "Fix" - yet "Time" and Banking may force it . . . esp. when Germany realises it is holding-up the Finances of EU, more-or-less on its own!
BREXIT:
Hoping Article 50 triggering goes ahead and the discussions can begin....ASAP
-but wonder if there are enough UK-folk with the Negotiating Skills - since the next 2-years will be new to everyone..... maybe we do need some foreign Strikers in the game.

No need to negotiate , ask the EU what it's offering and agree what's acceptable and walk away from the rest.

I'd have it all wrapped up in a week ... fortnight at most.

BBCs Brexit coverage pessimistic and skewed say MPs . BBC found out at last a few others too i would think .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39337909

UK inflation rate leaps to 2.3%


"Rising fuel and food prices helped to push last month's inflation rate to the highest since September 2013.
Inflation as measured by the Office for National Statistics' Consumer Prices Index (CPI) jumped to 2.3% in February - up from 1.8% in January.
The increase has pushed the rate above the Bank of England's 2% target.
Food prices recorded their first annual increase for more than two-and-a-half years, standing 0.3% higher in February than a year earlier.
The Bank of England has said it expects inflation will peak at 2.8% next year, although some economists think the rate could rise above 3%.
The Brexit vote last June prompted a steep fall in the value of the pound, making imported goods more expensive.
Ben Brettell, senior economist at Hargreaves Lansdown, said the fall in the pound against the dollar had been pushing transport costs higher since last summer."

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The March has started.

Re ''The March has started''

Inflation in the UK is going to be nowhere near as damaging as it will for the Eurozone.

fred will remember well when inflation was running at about 18% in the mid/late 70s
even a decade before that, ~5% was considered the norm

Result of the Heath tory government?

Inflation in the 70's was at one time well over 20%, nothing whatsover to
crow about, but when the rate is now 2.3 and we have people moaning,
it puts it into perspective, and every time the rate comes in under 2% the
BoE have to write a letter to the exchequer explaining why.

I can't see the rate exceeding 3% unless the exchange rate falls to near parity.

slight slippage of the brain fred?

labour 1964 to 1970 and then 1974 to 1979

Oh! In that case it was the 1973 oil crises. Eh! Fred

It doesn't matter really does it , you can see his game a mile off , silly billy Freda .

Re-read what I posted.

8-)

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fred wrote - Result of the Heath tory government?

so the answer to that is "no"

This one is for you Fred, and any other remainiacs who think €uropa holds the whip hand.

You will notice the big fat fact at the top of the graph: Trade war anybody?





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https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

As I said Max , see what they offer agree what's reasonable then walk away.

It's those silly buggers who will lose out in a game of chicken.

Looks like the murderers at it over here , Parliament in lockdown bodies seen .

Manuel,

Even the tories turned on Heath.

Mind it is usual for the tory rabble to turn on their leaders and scramble for their clothes or remaining rags.

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Max,

It will be easier for Germany etc. to rearrange their "deals" than the UK.

Also, the logics of distribution will be easier for the EU than the outsiders in the UK.

I wait to see.

not because of inflation methinks fred

btw, where did uncle jim go so badly wrong?