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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 21 Mar 2017 13:50 - 6540 of 12628

Inflation in the 70's was at one time well over 20%, nothing whatsover to
crow about, but when the rate is now 2.3 and we have people moaning,
it puts it into perspective, and every time the rate comes in under 2% the
BoE have to write a letter to the exchequer explaining why.

I can't see the rate exceeding 3% unless the exchange rate falls to near parity.

cynic - 21 Mar 2017 13:56 - 6541 of 12628

slight slippage of the brain fred?

labour 1964 to 1970 and then 1974 to 1979

2517GEORGE - 21 Mar 2017 14:45 - 6542 of 12628

Oh! In that case it was the 1973 oil crises. Eh! Fred

VICTIM - 21 Mar 2017 15:09 - 6543 of 12628

It doesn't matter really does it , you can see his game a mile off , silly billy Freda .

Fred1new - 21 Mar 2017 16:10 - 6544 of 12628

Re-read what I posted.

8-)

Fred1new - 22 Mar 2017 11:55 - 6545 of 12628

Fred1new - 22 Mar 2017 11:55 - 6546 of 12628

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cynic - 22 Mar 2017 12:58 - 6547 of 12628

fred wrote - Result of the Heath tory government?

so the answer to that is "no"

MaxK - 22 Mar 2017 13:05 - 6548 of 12628

This one is for you Fred, and any other remainiacs who think €uropa holds the whip hand.

You will notice the big fat fact at the top of the graph: Trade war anybody?





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https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

Dil - 22 Mar 2017 14:07 - 6549 of 12628

As I said Max , see what they offer agree what's reasonable then walk away.

It's those silly buggers who will lose out in a game of chicken.

VICTIM - 22 Mar 2017 15:09 - 6550 of 12628

Looks like the murderers at it over here , Parliament in lockdown bodies seen .

Fred1new - 22 Mar 2017 15:10 - 6551 of 12628

Manuel,

Even the tories turned on Heath.

Mind it is usual for the tory rabble to turn on their leaders and scramble for their clothes or remaining rags.

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Max,

It will be easier for Germany etc. to rearrange their "deals" than the UK.

Also, the logics of distribution will be easier for the EU than the outsiders in the UK.

I wait to see.

cynic - 22 Mar 2017 15:14 - 6552 of 12628

not because of inflation methinks fred

btw, where did uncle jim go so badly wrong?

Fred1new - 22 Mar 2017 19:17 - 6553 of 12628

He accepted the job.

cynic - 22 Mar 2017 19:45 - 6554 of 12628

didn't uncle jim preside over the winter of discontent?

hardly surprising then that the country voted in a gov't that would brook no nonsense from the militant unions

Fred1new - 22 Mar 2017 20:01 - 6555 of 12628




Check against PMs of the period and the mess left by Heath.


But in many ways, it is "circumstances" and has similarities to Labour being held responsible for the Banking and Mortgage and financial service fiascos in America and London in 2006-2010. Bad timing.

When I play chess I am always delighted when I meet an opponent whose moves correspond with my expectancies.

Unfortunately, such games are getting less frequent.

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Thinking of selling out towards middle of April.

Dil - 23 Mar 2017 10:27 - 6556 of 12628

It was the oil crisis that was the main cause of inflation while Hearh was in charge but then mainly wage inflation later in the decade.

As you say Fred Heath wasn't responsible for the oil crisis just as Brown wasn't responsible for the banking crisis which I thought Labour did a pretty good job in handling.

Dil - 23 Mar 2017 10:38 - 6557 of 12628

... or maybe it was joining the EU that caused it Fred.

Fred1new - 23 Mar 2017 12:50 - 6558 of 12628

Or Manuel being born.

Fred1new - 23 Mar 2017 12:50 - 6559 of 12628

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