Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic I'm just wondering if Putin will be difficult about Assad especially with the Turks situation .

Manuel,

Unlike you I am not feeble minded and running with the sheep.

Take Hazy one, it and JB with you, they should be good company!

Mind Haze hasn't got back from seeing Lynton yet.

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What is interesting, to me, is when those who are prepared and advocate sending others to do the "killing" or be "killed" are uncertain about the results of the actions, but shout "loyalties" and cling to their own armchairs.

I would suggest some of these heroes volunteer to work in the "War Zones" after their applauded actions, caring for the maimed and carrying out the necessary rebuilding and reparation work.

Of course building "asylum" areas and Orphanages and Hospitals.

Victim.

"Morality is gone for good it's survival of the fittest that's all thats left ."


Interesting.

Have a close look at Darwinian Evolution Theory and how individuals and groups "survive" or are "replaced".

V - putin is forever flexing his muscles, but i guess that is his kgb background ...... there is no doubt that the turks gave the fighter pilot good warning, and he failed to respond; eventually putin will accept that, just as he did when the plane bomb was undeniable

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fred - sorry to see you have reverted to your customary very silly mode

Is Fred still bleating on and on ,posting silly cartoons ..

That was before the Internet Fred .

JB.

We have seen images of you mother before.

God knows what you father must have looked like.

No accounting for taste.

Fred . Churches and Councils and people of public prominence in abuse inquiry BBC news

Your point is?

No morals .

Maybe we should have him as Prime Minister he wouldn't stand for all the crap of hate preaching on the streets ..

Funded by the UK taxpayer as well.

Victim.

I think there are many who are amoral and others who have a fluctuating morality biasing to what is personally advantageous to themselves at the time.

Psychopaths, often are described being amoral, but often is different situations demonstrate morals or are "moralistic".

Again what is thought as moral fluctuate from period to another and become more libertine. Look at the changes in attitude or moral opinions of abortion since the change in the laws.

Look at moralistic denouncements on divorce and homosexual 50 years ago against the general acceptance.

For the majority nothing is fixed in stone.
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I think perhaps a more useful words and sometimes easier to define is "abuse", "abusive" and can be against oneself or others.

Abuse can be used to describe actions towards oneself or others.

etc.

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But in spite of failings I would prefer to live in most "societies" to-day, rather than
75years ago.


But "moral" codes are interesting!

morals are set by the society one lives in and as such are a slow movable feast

I see the problem!

makes a change :-)
over time, it's actually no problem at all as what might have been taboo or acceptable centuries or even a couple of decades back, can become (un)acceptable as time passes ....... you can use (in uk) examples such as sunday shopping, capital punishment, children being sent up chimneys, assisted suicide and abortion

corbyn will get into bed with a racist but will not protect the public

the man is a wimp and would put up the white flag to any force

UKIP window poster for Oldham by election

i see nothing at all to indicate that it's a ukip poster
if it is, then ukip should sack its media company for it clearly doesn't understand the first thing about advertising

Must be his own Cabinet .