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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 15:19 - 65456 of 81564

Woah!

jimmy b - 27 Nov 2015 15:20 - 65457 of 81564

What a babe !!!!!!!

VICTIM - 27 Nov 2015 15:20 - 65458 of 81564

Well thanks MaxK for ruining my weekend .

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 15:26 - 65459 of 81564

TANKER - 27 Nov 2015 16:12 - 65460 of 81564

maxK do not put that racist on here

TANKER - 27 Nov 2015 16:14 - 65461 of 81564

a real woman is KATIE HOPKINS a great lady not many good ones like her a real lady and my hero . most women are thick as lard

TANKER - 27 Nov 2015 16:16 - 65462 of 81564

Katie Hopkins you are the best their is do not change xxxxxxxxx

VICTIM - 27 Nov 2015 16:26 - 65463 of 81564

Did she sing ,Those were the days my friend . Once

Stan - 27 Nov 2015 17:26 - 65464 of 81564

Vicky thats Mary Hopkins you donut Smileyhttp://www.maryhopkin.com/pages/TWTD.html

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 18:09 - 65465 of 81564

The odds of Corbyn surviving beyond the end of this year are falling. On Tuesday they were 11/1, Thursday they were 8/1 and now they are 7/1.

Corbyn going in 2016 is getting close to evens from 6/1

Stan - 27 Nov 2015 22:52 - 65466 of 81564

Grant Shapes now involved in the cover up.. the plot continues.



Still no responsible answers H/S?

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 23:34 - 65467 of 81564

Jeremy Corbyn faces humiliation as more than 100 Labour MPs plan to defy leader over Syria air strikes

Around half of Labour MPs will next week support David Cameron's plans to bomb Isil as Jeremy Corbyn faces the biggest crisis of his leadership

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 23:41 - 65468 of 81564

The odds of Corbyn leaving this year has dropped this evening to 5/1. It was 11/1 on Tuesday.

MaxK - 27 Nov 2015 23:45 - 65469 of 81564

Haystack - 27 Nov 2015 23:55 - 65470 of 81564

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/death-of-a-political-party-jeremy-corbyn-has-killed-labour/

Death of a political party: Jeremy Corbyn has killed Labour

It’s all over. In fact, it was over before it ever really began. I knew it, you knew it, and even many of the poor fish who voted for Jeremy Corbyn knew it. And now everyone knows, as Morrissey put it, That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore.

The Labour party, it should now be obvious to everyone, no longer exists as a functional political organisation. Order has disintegrated and it’s every man – and woman – for themselves. Save what you can while you can because things are going to get worse – a lot worse – before they get any better. It is a shambles; a once great party reduced to competing rabbles of independent gangs scavenging for whatever meagre comforts they can rescue from the rubble. Love, peace and harmony? Very nice. But maybe in the next world.

All of which is no great surprise. The notion Jeremy Corbyn could ever become Prime Minister was always preposterous. Not in this lifetime; not in this country. Even so, you begin to marvel at the thoroughness with which he is destroying the Labour party.

Not that he lacks for helpers, of course. John McDonnell, Ken Livingstone, Dianne Abbot and Seumas Milne are willing accomplices. Who could have predicted these would prove sub-optimal appointments?

Matters have reached such a state that the leader of the Labour party feels unable to campaign in a by-election in which his party is defending a 15,000 majority won just six months ago. His presence in Oldham – Oldham! – can only make things worse for Labour.

The choosing time approaches for members of his Shadow Cabinet. The ship is sinking and no amount of dogged loyalty to the greater idea of the Labour party can change that. The question is whether they wish to sink with it. On Monday some will surely decide to abandon ship. There is no disgrace in that. On the contrary, dignity and self-respect leave them with little else to do.

Corbyn himself will not go. Nor can he change course. He is who he is. He is who he has always been. Inverting the usual rules of politics, the more unpopular he is the more that demonstrates he must be right. The path of righteousness is not for everyone and it is no surprise that many, even most, of the parliamentary Labour party aren’t up to the job. They, like the British people, are part of the problem. They must be replaced.

It is hard to think of precedents for this nonsense. The Labour party is currently in the business of making Ukip seem respectable and adult. But that is what is happening as the Labour party is taken over by cranks.

Cranks undersells it, actually. A fringe party can accommodate eccentricity but Labour is supposed to be a serious party of the kind that could plausibly form a government. That Labour party no longer exists.

Granted, it is by no means obvious that there is a winning alternative to Corbyn. But his leadership is achieving the impossible: it makes you pine for Andy Burnham. Andy Burnham! Think on that.

Loyalty is all very well and good but what happens when there’s nothing left to be loyal to? That’s where Labour is now. Members of the Shadow Cabinet who disagree with Corbyn have a choice: do they stay or do they go? If they stay then they should be aware they’re acting as accomplices to this nonsense. If they leave they can at least say, with some measure of honesty, that they gave Jeremy a chance but loyalty to the idea – and future – of the Labour party as a functioning political party demanded their resignation.

Because it can’t go on like this. Anyone who thinks Corbyn can recover from this is fooling themselves. The public reaches a verdict on party leaders very quickly and it is rare that judgement changes very much. The British people knew, deep down, that Ed Miliband wasn’t up to being Prime Minister (a sentiment confirmed by the manner in which, with lip-petted, he scuttled from the leadership of his party) and they know Jeremy Corbyn isn’t either.

Things won’t get better. They will get worse. Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before but there is no escaping this. Oblivion awaits.

Haystack - 28 Nov 2015 00:47 - 65471 of 81564

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-s-labour-isn-t-working-the-leader-is-weak-the-party-is-divided-and-its-structures-are-a6752241.html

Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour isn’t working: The leader is weak, the party is divided, and its structures are inadequate

Either Mr Corbyn will perform an internal coup, or he will eventually step down or be deposed

Fred1new - 28 Nov 2015 08:32 - 65472 of 81564

Max,

Is that the new manual for the tory party central office.



Watch the Hazes cover ups appear.

-=-=-==


And watch Bomber Cameron step up to the challenge.

Chris Carson - 28 Nov 2015 10:00 - 65473 of 81564

And watch Jeremy Corbyn crawl back under the rock from whence he came!

cynic - 28 Nov 2015 11:22 - 65474 of 81564

very funny Matt cartoon in telegraph this morning ....... if someone could post same ......

MaxK - 28 Nov 2015 11:30 - 65475 of 81564

Cameron’s drive to bomb Syria is macho, foolish and must be stopped

Simon Jenkins

Friday 27 November 2015 10.27 GMT


Labour has the power to prevent us getting into a conflict we cannot resolve. Jeremy Corbyn, for once, has got it right



Jeremy Corbyn’s challenge to David Cameron on the bombing of Syria is unanswerable, and every Labour MP knows it. So too is his explanation of his position in his letter to his party. A British prime minister’s statement on the eve of war should never be taken at face value. We have heard these bombastic calls to foreign aggression – festooned with jingoist opinion polls – too many times. In Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, windy rhetoric and strategic waffle have substituted for rational argument. Cameron’s statement yesterday, full of talk of values, ways of life and examined consciences, was a classic of the genre.

Corbyn’s Labour enemies, consumed with hatred for his clique, were yesterday rerunning Suez. They were frantic, not about the bombing of Syria, but about being outflanked by a cynical Tory party on a matter of peace and war. Bombing Syria has nothing to do with terrorism, except possibly to increase the likelihood of it in Britain. It has nothing positive to contribute to Britain’s national security, which is not currently under threat. The idea that Isis might undermine British values is an insult to those values. That it might attain a caliphate in the Mile End Road is a fantasy of men shut up too long in a Cobra bunker.


The one remotely sensible objective of a resumed British engagement in the Middle East would be to restore a modicum of order to Syria and Iraq. But as long as the governments of neither state, nor of other states in the region, are willing to offer troops to this end, the chances of the west succeeding on its own are minimal – or at best likely to be temporary. There are some conflicts even Great Britain might be powerless to resolve.


More:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/27/david-cameron-syria-macho-foolish-labour-jeremy-corbyn
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