Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

This one is for you Fred, and any other remainiacs who think €uropa holds the whip hand.

You will notice the big fat fact at the top of the graph: Trade war anybody?





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https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

As I said Max , see what they offer agree what's reasonable then walk away.

It's those silly buggers who will lose out in a game of chicken.

Looks like the murderers at it over here , Parliament in lockdown bodies seen .

Manuel,

Even the tories turned on Heath.

Mind it is usual for the tory rabble to turn on their leaders and scramble for their clothes or remaining rags.

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Max,

It will be easier for Germany etc. to rearrange their "deals" than the UK.

Also, the logics of distribution will be easier for the EU than the outsiders in the UK.

I wait to see.

not because of inflation methinks fred

btw, where did uncle jim go so badly wrong?

He accepted the job.

didn't uncle jim preside over the winter of discontent?

hardly surprising then that the country voted in a gov't that would brook no nonsense from the militant unions

Check against PMs of the period and the mess left by Heath.


But in many ways, it is "circumstances" and has similarities to Labour being held responsible for the Banking and Mortgage and financial service fiascos in America and London in 2006-2010. Bad timing.

When I play chess I am always delighted when I meet an opponent whose moves correspond with my expectancies.

Unfortunately, such games are getting less frequent.

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Thinking of selling out towards middle of April.

It was the oil crisis that was the main cause of inflation while Hearh was in charge but then mainly wage inflation later in the decade.

As you say Fred Heath wasn't responsible for the oil crisis just as Brown wasn't responsible for the banking crisis which I thought Labour did a pretty good job in handling.

... or maybe it was joining the EU that caused it Fred.

Or Manuel being born.

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This comes from someone who can't press the keyboard properly again .

Vicky,

I can press all the keys on my computer keyboard properly.

The problem is the frequency that I press them.

Yes you are very pressing in fact depressing .

HO. Ho, ho.


Put a new skirt on.

Has Heseltine just woke up after all these years , didn't say that about Germany anytime in the past . My god they just can't get over it can they .

Carswell has turned his back on UKIP.

That is dangerous.

Worth a glance and flick through!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/observer-comment-cartoon

i think it's a reasonable bet that carswell will be voted back in as an indy, for i believe he is a very good local mp