Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

max - read my posts and you will see where i stand .... 65518 will do as an example

I'll ask again.

Who do you want to bomb?

Targeted missions against ISIL. Command control centres, hardware such as tanks, APCs, trucks, oil tankers and oil terminals, ISIL units in transit. These are the targets that involve several hundred strikes a day currently.

Don't forget that there are special forces on the ground pinpointing targets and drones and satellite gathering intelligence. They are also eavesdropping on mobile and social media 'chatter'. That is how they targeted Jihadi John recently. We have staff in Cyprus and inside the rock in Gibraltar working in what are called 'listening posts' who intercept radio and phone traffic apart from GCHQ in the UK. The Israelis are providing a huge amount of intelligence as a result of intercepts.

Us to bomb Syria? the USA, Russia and France are dropping bombs as we speak and have been for some time (France apart) and what did dropping thousands of bombs in Viet Nam achieve except thousands upon thousands of innocent people being killed?

Also I thought that we were short of money, how much would it cost?

Bomb them?.. Don't be ridicules.

Vietnam was a very different war. There was no targeted bombing capability with jungle cover and no air surveillance. They were supported by China. Syria is a desert mainly. The military in Vietnam were hampered by lack of political will. The military wanted to bomb North Vietnam cities but could only bomb the jungle with carpet bombs.

I am sure we will be bombing them in about a week as we should have done in 2013. The targets are being prepared even now.

You have only answered one question, now answer the rest please?

Corbyn's former lover backs traffic scheme which could see her house value soar above £1million

Neighbours' fury as Diane Abbott ignores vociferous opposition campaign





By Robert Mendick, Chief reporter

9:05PM GMT 29 Nov 2015







Diane Abbott, the left wing Labour MP who once had a fling with Jeremy Corbyn, has angered her neighbours by giving her influential backing to a traffic scheme that could see the value of her house rocket above £1m.


While almost 1,000 residents have signed a petition demanding the scheme be scrapped, Ms Abbott, the darling of the Left, has tweeted her delight.








“Welcome trial traffic filtering scheme for cleaner greener Hackney,”

MP Diane Abbott









“Welcome trial traffic filtering scheme for cleaner greener Hackney,” announced Ms Abbott, Labour’s shadow international development secretary and MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, on Twitter.


Her ringing endorsement flew in the face of a vociferous campaign fighting the scheme. It may be coincidental that Ms Abbott is expected to see a rise in the value of her house if it goes ahead.





Land registry documents show Ms Abbott is the sole owner of a townhouse on Middleton Road in fashionable Hackney which she bought for £325,000 in 2001.

Local estate agents say the house is now worth in the region of £950,000 but could be worth a fair bit more once the scheme gets the go ahead.

The traffic plan will mean her road, which sees about 5,000 cars, vans and lorries trundling down it every day, shut off to through traffic. Ms Abbott’s road will be transformed from a busy and noisy thoroughfare to a quite haven of calm while those in the surrounding streets fear that the extra traffic will head their way. Others complain the road closures will make massively increase short car journeys, increasing pollution rather than reducing it.






“Actually it’s not that welcome. Nearly 500 residents signed a petition opposing it. Council arrogantly asked no one locally”

Resident Patrick Wintour








Estate agents said the measure will add tens of thousands of pounds to the value of her townhouse.

A spokesman for local estate agents Blake Stanley said: “Houses on Middleton Road are a little bit cheaper at the moment because of the through traffic. We do take that into account when we value properties. It is a bit more of a cut through.”

Residents in surrounding streets are furious with the scheme. They believe the traffic plan will simply push traffic on to other roads and make getting in and out of the area needlessly time-consuming, making car journeys longer and actually more polluting.

Opponents include Patrick Wintour, the long-standing political editor of the Guardian newspaper, who in response to Ms Abbott’s praise for the scheme, wrote on twitter: “Actually it’s not that welcome. Nearly 500 residents signed a petition opposing it. Council arrogantly asked no one locally.”

In the time since he wrote that two weeks ago, a further 500 signatures have been added.

Claire Brossard, 43, a mother of two and a leading campaigner, said: “It’s a disgrace. The Middleton Road residents were lobbying for this and so probably was Diane Abbott. It’s a complete waste of money.”






“It’s a disgrace. The Middleton Road residents were lobbying for this and so probably was Diane Abbott. It’s a complete waste of money”

Claire Brossard, who opposes the scheme








The scheme will see 12 separate road junctions closed to through traffic in an area covering roughly half a square mile. Hackney Council, which is Labour dominated, described the measure which comes into force on a trial basis in January as “one of the largest and most progressive of its kind”. The trial scheme, costing £60,000, is being paid for by Transport for London as part of its plans to make cycling safer in the capital.

Ms Abbott, 62, who has been an MP in Hackney for almost 30 years, said: “Across London, councils are looking for ways to reduce traffic and improve safety for pedestrians and cyclists. I understand the concerns that some residents have about this scheme, but at the moment what the council is proposing is a trial. Presumably, if high levels of traffic are displaced onto surrounding roads, the council will think again about its proposals.”

A source close to Ms Abbott said it was unfair to link Ms Abbott’s support for the scheme to her house price. “She isn’t thinking of selling so that has nothing to do with it,” said the source.

Barrel scraping alert.

LOL STANLEY!!!! POT CALLING KETTLE ME THINKS!

Wrong Haystack...yet again!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20719382

Blimey CC, your thinking now?

..Again and again and again Max.

Max
Yes. That was one bombing run and pretty late on in the war. The mi!itary wanted to do that years before.

CC
You have to remember the lefties are very defensive these days. They are aware that we are witnessing the death throws and last gasps of the left.

B52's Haystack, they were not mucking about.

ok, back to the present.



Follow the money:


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-28/isis-oil-trade-full-frontal-raqqas-rockefellers-bilal-erdogan-krg-crude-and-israel-c

Stop being evasive H/S and answer the questions.

Max
There is a lot of guesswork and admitted speculation in that article. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

OK you can go to bed now, but I expect the questions to be answered tomorrow.

Activist group linked to Jeremy Corbyn has accounts closed amid fears it may be funding terrorism

Co-op Bank said that Palestine Solidarity Campaign's accounts failed due diligence checks to ensure funds were not 'inadvertently funding illegal or other proscribed activities'



By Camilla Turner

7:30PM GMT 29 Nov 2015







An activist organisation which has Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn as patron has had its accounts closed down over fears that it may be inadvertently funding terrorism.


Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), whose patrons also include the Oscar winning actress Julie Christie and the playwright Caryl Churchill, was told by the Co-operative Bank that “risk-appetite” was the reason for closing its account.


In a statement, the bank said that due to the “high risk” locations in which PSC operates and send funds to, it had to carry out “advanced due diligence checks” on their accounts to ensure that funds do not “inadvertently fund illegal or other proscribed activities”.


The statement concluded that it was “not possible to complete these checks to our satisfaction and the decision to close a number of accounts, including the PSC and some of its affiliates, is an inevitable result of this process”.



Mr Corbyn has long supported various Palestinian causes, including the PSC which says on its website that he “regularly speaks at rallies” and praises him for being "tireless in his support for Palestine".

The organisation has courted controversy in the past. A PSC meeting in 2004, following the assassination of Hamas leader Sheikh Yassin, led to Baroness Jenny Tonge being sacked from the Liberal Democrat party's front bench for claiming that in different circumstances, she might consider becoming a suicide bomber.

She went on to hold a minute's silence in Yassin's memory at the meeting, which was also attended by Mr Corbyn who claimed he left before the minute’s silence took place.



Mr Corbyn has been criticised for introducing members of Hamas and Hizbollah – terrorist bodies according to the United States – as “friends”. He says this was “diplomatic language in the context of dialogue”.

In February 2013, Mr Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right.



Interpal is allowed to operate in the UK after claiming it has broken its links with Hamas, a claim accepted by the Charity Commission.

PSC has announced that it is now launching legal action against the Co-operative Bank on grounds of discrimination.

ITN solicitors, acting on behalf of PSC, state the bank failed "to provide any reasons for the closure of PSC’s account, which has been compounded by [their] failure to provide appropriate disclosure".

They claimed that the decision to close its accounts was based on PSC's belief in "Palestinian rights" and "the nationality or religion of the Palestinian people"and was therefore contrary to the Equality Act.

Sarah Colborne, PSC’s Director accused Co-op of "turning its back on its ethical principles" by closing down their accounts.

Tom Wilson, a resident associate fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, a think tank, said: "The Co-op has highlighted the due diligence that it must show regarding the accounts of groups operating in 'high risk locations', of which Gaza and the West Bank would certainly be included.

"Among the concerns a bank would have in these kinds of cases will likely be fears about funding reaching illegal, extremist or terrorist activities.

"The PSC claim that this is an act of discrimination seems particularly unconvincing given the support we’ve seen the Co-op give for the Palestinian campaign in the past."

..And you CC.. -):