Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

STAN I have spent many months in instanbul its a shit hole the people have no respect for anything ,
they are going to be allowed to join if the uk votes to stop in then the uk is finished
has you no it .

it will be a very dangerous place to live
crime on the streets will be normal
holiday makers only see the holiday side not the real turkey of crime and muggings

I am off this weekend but change of plans we are all going to florida

max - sorry; i obviously misread your question ....... IS strongholds and the like ..... will there be innocents killed as well? ..... i'm afraid inevitably so, no matter how accurate modern techniques allow

however, in very simplistic terms, i think that doing nothing at all is a complete cop out and will bring just as many unforeseen and unforeseeable consequences as taking action

mccluskey
good to see unite openly showing its hand as controlling corbyn and his acolytes
i wonder what effect this will have on the oldham by-election

i certainly hope that a good number of labour MPs will refuse to be bullied into submission by threats of some union leader ..... this sounds worse for the labour party than the good old days of red robbo, derek hatton and arthur scargill et al

Oh dear.. another gutter press rant from our Bamber

no .... it came from the guardian actually

"Unite boss warns Labour MPs ‘they are writing their political obituaries’ if they continue to show leader lack of respect"

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of more important concern is if MPs - and this applies to all MPs from all parties - are bludgeoned into line on this exceptionally important issue

even fred admits it should be a free vote

the advert shop small on the high street .myself and my family went on Saturday
we walked into a few shops we bought nothing not clean no dates on anything fresh
and just piled up veg .the butchers looked ok but when I asked where the beef came from he said uk prices high .

so we went to Tesco clean and tidy and could see what we wanted to know .

so we did our shop all 5 of us .
you can keep your small shops walking from one shop to another shop in the rain
could not park the cars . not for us to dear and not as good products and could have been on the shelves for months

Any pretence as to who is running €urope is falling away.




Europe split over refugee deal as Germany leads breakaway coalition

Angela Merkel holds surprise mini-summit in Brussels with nine EU countries willing to take large numbers after meeting resistance to mandatory sharing scheme


Ian Traynor in Brussels

Monday 30 November 2015 07.21 GMT



Months of European efforts to come up with common policies on mass immigration unravelled on Sunday when Germany led a “coalition of the willing” of nine EU countries taking in most refugees from the Middle East, splitting the union formally on the issues of mandatory refugee-sharing and funding.

An unprecedented full EU summit with Turkey agreed a fragile pact aimed at stemming the flow of migrants to Europe via Turkey.

But the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, frustrated by the resistance in Europe to her policies, also convened a separate mini-summit with seven other leaders to push a fast-track deal with the Turks and to press ahead with a new policy of taking in and sharing hundreds of thousands of refugees a year directly from Turkey.

The surprise mini-summit suggested that Merkel has given up on trying to persuade her opponents, mostly in eastern Europe, to join a mandatory refugee-sharing scheme across the EU, although she is also expected to use the pro-quotas coalition to pressure the naysayers into joining later.



More: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/29/germanys-plan-to-strike-eu-wide-refugee-sharing-deal-stalls

A rant is a rant, 1st, 2nd or 3rd hand it makes no difference.. you have put your name to it so guilty as charged.. take him down

here is some real news GERMANY REFURBISHING 20 COAL FIRED POWER STATIONS
AND A THEY ARE AT THE CLIMATE MEETING TODAY IN FRANCE
GERMANY SPENDING BILLIONS ON OLD COAL FIRED POWER STATIONS

YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT UP

AND THE UK CLOSING GOOD COAL FIRED STATIONS THE GERMANS ARE TAKING THE PISS OUR MPS ARE USELESS

THE UK VIA THE BACK DOOR ALLOWED 125000 REFUGGEES TO ENTER THE UK IN THE LAST 9 MONTHS WE ARE BEING TOLD LIES BY OUR MPS

Cameron is going to give all immigrants the vote on the eu that is why he is letting them in knowing they will vote to stop in . the man is a criminal

"OUR MPS ARE USELESS".. Not much disagreement with that on this forum I expect Tanks.. I would just add that the executive are the worst though.

Just shows you Germany wants Europe for what It can get out of it for itself only .

Germany to pump out more co2 than the rest of the eu . ignoring the climate policy

20 coal fired power stations you could not make it up and not a word from our mps
on this issue just closing all the power stations in the uk

madness

When did you say you were going on Hols again Tanks? -):

Jamie oliver on obesity is meals are full of shite fat grease full of sugar and salt

and they are crap not fit for my table
the man loves him self .
is meals are crap even I can cook better than him my meals are good and no salt or sugar just good products from Tesco store and prepare them your self

sunday back in the new year around mid jan

all have a good new year

an old friend moves in to my home tilli come back he loves it