Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Worth a glance and flick through!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/observer-comment-cartoon

i think it's a reasonable bet that carswell will be voted back in as an indy, for i believe he is a very good local mp

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Brexit Eve , I'm so excited.

Yep it's the only Coming Out party that I'd ever go to .

Only 6 months too late !!!!

Vicky and Dil,

Here is your girlfriend.

Strange bloke you Freda , she's only carrying out the wishes of the electorate you know , doing her job .

Here are Britain's terms. Lower your flags, and march straight back to Europe, stopping at every home you pass by to beg forgiveness for a 40 years of theft. Do that and your men shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will die today.

Junckers: [laughs] You are outmatched. You have no heavy Industry.

I'm not finished! Before we let you leave, your commander must cross that field, present himself before this army, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own arse

exactly so V
that TM was for "in" prior to the referendum, i see no weakness or similar in her now putting all her energies into getting a decent deal out of brussels

actually, is it not interesting how the stance in brussels has mellowed and changed markedly ever since the uk referendum
shame that such could (would) never have been achieved by staying in

Dad, is 'being PC' from the EU?

Dad, can we ignore 'being PC' once we've left the EU?

Dad, after Brexit, can we have Alf Garnett back on our telly?

Can we, Dad? Can we?

Manuel,

Being sensible wouldn't sell the "papers".

hi fred ..... i agree though don't understand the relevance of your comment

at last the weather has changed for the better here (dubai)
there have been storms and strong winds since i arrived thursday night, but that should now be the end of them
shall try to take a (well earned!) rest from appts tomorrow

Manuel,

A large amount of public opinion was and is driven by the media.

At the moment the majority of political "news" when reported appears to be hyped, often false and partisan and slanted according to the will of those who "control" or have bought the media.

Politicians seem to sway and bend with the breeze and often lying or distorting the “truth” to support their present “cause” with little thought to long-term consequences of implementing said "policies".

At present, it seems to me there is a dearth of statesmen or politicians of any stature and those who aspire to being the present-day "leaders" of the political parties are more interested in their own “material and self-advancement” than "society's" as whole.

Depressing.

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Mother Theresa craved for "leadership" and basically picked up the poisoned chalice.

I hope she will be luckier than I think she will be.

i know you won't agree fred, but i think TM has the makings of a very good and strong PM ...... if that happens to be in a similar mold to MT, then i shall not be unhappy

Mother Theresa craved for leadership , rubbish who else was there to do it , and how can you make any judgement on a person you mock continually indeed country , party etc , you must think we are all as full of derision as you Freda .

The terms of exit have to be negotiated between Britain’s 27 EU member counterparts, and each will have a veto over the conditions.

It will also be subject to ratification in national parliaments, meaning, for example, that say, Belgian MPs (ie. not Belgian MEPs) could stymie the entire process.

IMHO, this is the most likely scenario for at least some of the leaving conditions and new arrangements. If it happens, which I think it will, then I do think we are most likely to be leaving the EU without any kind of a deal.

The Scottish Nicola Democrats are also intent on the devolution of Scotland from the UK. I am pretty sure we won't be able to get them to 'shut up' about it.

And then we have the Northern Ireland/Eire boundary problem to solve. The guys on both sides of the border can historically be very stubborn and very awkward too.

eg.

Auf weidersein Mrs Merkel , au revoir Hollande and good riddance Junker ... we're off to the land of the free and no more stupid laws and regulations from you lot.

Would say it was nice knowing you but it wasn't.