Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Agree to disagree, or just ignore him. :0)

Meanwhile.........

What would it mean for Labour to lose the Oldham West and Royton by-election?
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn faces his first test at the ballot box when voters pass judgement in Oldham West. But how bad could it be? (Does anybody really care?)

By Asa Bennett and Laurence Dodds7:00AM GMT 02 Dec 2015Comments6 Comments
This week Jeremy Corbyn faces its first electoral test since becoming leader. On Thursday, voters go to the polls for the Oldham West and Royton by-election triggered by the death of much-loved Labour MP Michael Meacher.
Meacher won the seat in May with 14,000 more votes than Ukip's candidate – a majority which should be unassailable. But as Corbyn faces week after week of negative headlines, Labour insiders fear it could be dramatically slashed.
A private party poll last week suggested it could drop by half, while shadow chancellor John McDonnell this week seemed to be preparing for a majority of less than 1,000.
If that happened – of if, somehow, they lost the seat entirely – disgruntled Labour MPs who have so far stayed their hands might begin seriously thinking about a coup.
So how bad could it get?

First, a health warning. By-election results can offer signs of trouble ahead, but they are famously poor predictors of general election results. This is partly because the composition of the electorate is different, and partly because their special, one-off nature makes voters do unusual things.
So as any pollster worth her salt will tell you, you can't just take a by-election result and generalise it across the entire country.
However, given the Labour party leadership is currently touting online polls comprising a couple thousand of their supporters as evidence of public opinion, we thought: why not do it anyway?
We consulted the political forecasting firm Electoral Calculus to generate some fantasy Oldham results, and then used their handy custom swing generator to sketch out what would happen if these results were replicated on the national scale.

Telegraph.

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Unfortunately, UKIP have a massive uphill task.
They have to counter the votes of the terminally stupid who vote labour just because that's what their parents did, the votes of the benefit brigade and the questionable postal votes of our new citizens.

The deck is well and truly stacked against them.



After being kicked out of Scotland, Labour now have to rely on the immigrant population for their core support. Keir Hardie must be rolling in his grave.

n so many ways, I'd be disappointed. Not because I'm a Corbyn fan, moreover because I appreciate we've moved back to two distinct political Party's and that we at least now have an opposition in Parliament. That is two Party's that fundamentally disagree. This means, for the first time in decades, that we have a Parliament functioning as it was designed to do so.

No Labour voter is going to switch to the Conservatives and any polling model which assumes otherwise will produce a wrong result. Labour voters who have seen the light will either abstain or switch to Ukip.

The E U deal with Turkey has been done,and Cameron let it happen without a fight.
So 75 million Turks will be able to come to Britain in October 2016, because of the deal. I despair.
UKIP are the only party that puts us first. I hope labour lose,they won,t of course their supporters are like sheep.

So Stan you said Turkey wouldn't be allowed into EU . Here cometh the beggining of the end of Britain .

Manuel.

Do you mean this statement?


assad is one problem, and that is certainly syria based, but IS is a totally different proposition ...... and surely i do not need to explain why

If so, I am "afraid" you have to.

corbyn what a lunatic and liar look at is past it tells you all
no principles no morals no gut
corbyn raise the white flag
if labour under this scumbag ever got to power then all the forces personel
may as well resign they would be pointless

fred I have sent the labour party 6 e mails no replies
yet in the election was getting 5 a day the party of scum now disgusting worthless scum to a shamed to answer questions

Don't hold back TANK! :0)

Yes TANK your going a bit soft ,tell it as it is ....

because IS is a renegade agglomeration that is a far greater threat than assad across the whole muslim world and wider

i'm sure you'll choose not to understand that and distort as you always do to suit your own agenda

Where's this €U deal with the Turks?

Any links??

Tot up Assad's death toll.

Tot up siding with Russia.

Consider Ukraine's position and Russia's future actions.

Strange friends

cynic - Just ignore him, I know you find it hard, give it a go. He's a wind up merchant. Don't get mad get even!

it's ok; i'm just off to the airport anyway
like i said, fred just distorts to suit his own agenda - and admits as much

per b4 - my enemy's enemy is my friend

Make sure Fred's not on your plane cynic ,i don't trust him he could be a sympathiser ,
he looks like this .

JB,

Please stop putting images of your mother on thread.

I can't help you with your ancestry.

But perhaps, you are like a lamb to the slaughter.

I see the 3 Stooges are at it again.. have a good holiday Bamber

The one on the left is JB and on the must be Victim.

But that middle one is flattering of haze.

Haven't we bombed them yet , ISIS would have murdered at least 400 by now .

Vic.

Good business.

Do you know any undertakers in the M.E. to put a few bob into, before the body bags start coming home?

It's a mistake!

I'm not saying that going after those murdering bastards isn't a good idea, but doing the bomb from miles away thing is playing into their hands.

And I will be well surprised if Dave's 70000 fighter turn up for the gig.

What may be interesting, is what will be happening in 4 years time? If as I expect the UK will be sucked further into to the ME conflict and "terrorist" activity is dispersed throughout the world, with a targeting of UK interests in other countries other than the UK.

Especially, if some of the body bags will be British!

Might give a re-evaluation of tory policies and public votes.