Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Love the riding the bomb loop.

'Dr Strangelove or how I stopped worrying and came to love the bomb'.

Two Tornados have taken off from Cyprus, most likely with a parcel delivery for ISIL.

so then, what does fred have to say of hilary benn?
no doubt he'll call him a turncoat or somesuch

anyway, it's certainly no time for gloating from some quarters, as though i support the decision, it is a very serious step with an unknown outcome - as indeed would have been a vote in the other direction

california shootings
meanwhile the motive behind this latest "crazy america" mass shooting is unknown

it would be nice to think that there may at last be a groundswell to clamp down on the lunatic "right to carry arms" embedded in the constitution

Never happen , no one would get elected on the promise to stop the right to carry arms , mad as that is.

certainly that has been true to date, and usa has a notoriously strong gun lobby
however, even obama has now nailed his colours to the mast on this issue, no doubt to MrT's disgust :-)

300 million+ guns in private ownership.

And that's the ones they know about...how many others?


Plus, as the gun lobby would say....if you disarm the general public, only the bad guys will have guns.


How do you counter an argument like that?

Manuel.,

I don't stoop as low as you do.

I think Benn is entitled to his views and has the right to make those views apparent.

I disagree that the right decision was made.

Looking at the some of the antics of the beginning of debate it reminded me a of a bunch of sophisticated football hooligans.

The hoorah for war brigade ilk were of Boys Own part players.

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I hope some are able to look into the eyes of their children and tell them what they are celebrating.

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Hays, in what he celebrates and lauds, strikes me as a psychopath.

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I will watch and wait and if still around view the aftermath of the actions and the way supported for dealing with ISIS.

I hope I am not right in my expectations.

As I wrote before I am not against using "force", but when and how and against what, or whom you use it against, are the problems.

That is what should be thought about and considered before engagement.

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Why don't you go to Syria and watch it for yourself first hand . Be a nice break for us as well .

Is that Fred bleating on again ?

Victim.

I was in Yugoslavia just after the "precision bombing" an the time of a said "victory" and know many on both sides of that crazy war.

I have been in other post-devastation war zones and seen the results, both physically and socially.


Perhaps, you can expand your experiences.

A proper toff for leader of the labour party?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Benn

Hasn't affected you though has it ? or has it .

my post yesterday I put the wrong name it was the real lady

Margret beckett a great leader reminds me of maggie

Pistorious guilty of murder , has to be re- sentenced . What a balls up .

it is Africa they stll believe in witch craft that's haw backward they are a sick all Africa is but the rest of the world is has bad they believe in a god the greatest fairy tale ever written

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/03/oscar-pistorius-conviction-reeva-steenkamp-upgraded-murder

wrong verdict in the first place..... feels like much pressure brought to bear then, and i hope they now throw away the key

max - not a patch on jacob rees-mogg :-)