Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Well the RAF are back in the skies again.....I get the feeling that it's because of cost that Britain has been encouraged to bomb Syria......

How could he have fired four times in what is not a big home without having a little doubt that it's probably his girlfriend in the bathroom.......does not add up.....it looks like he killed his mate in a temper....

see you next year bye for now . have a great new year

Just read a bit and the original Judge I think is doing the new sentence , what a strange system they have .

Any more credit for the RAF...and they will be bringing out a credit card !.....

I always thought he murdered her ...

sorry for switching all the time....I think that they will need ground troops out in the desert.....perhaps only for a short time...now and again...you can't just obliterate everything and think that's that....what I fear is they the enemy will plan bombing Britain or another participant in this war.....

I bet Isis won't like this ,a female coming to kick your ass ..

Knock, knock Mr ISIL, Postman!

I wonder if she can change a tyre on it .

No don't be silly VIC ,she would stand by the side of the runway waiting for help from a man .

She looks like a real Tornado......(can clean my bathroom anytime).....

ooooh matron ..

Her names Jet .

Hilary Benn death threat after his 'historic' speech in favour of RAF airstrikes

Hilary Benn has faced death threats and abusive messages after he made a "historic" speech to MPs in favour of airstrikes.

JB.

Rejoice!

It seems to me that Cameron couldn't wait to get on with the KILLING!

Swivel on this Red Fred! LOL!!

Nigel Farage: Ukip will wipe out Labour in the north – just as the SNP did in Scotland
If Ukip can win Oldham, it will be the start of a major shift of political power

By Nigel Farage6:14PM GMT 02 Dec 2015Comments2163 Comments
The general election of May this year produced an unexpected result. The huge fear of the SNP in England resulted in a surprise Tory majority. Now another big surprise is on the way.
There was another, often unmentioned, factor that helped the Conservatives in May: the extent to which Ukip bit hard into the Old Labour vote. For many years there has been a lazy assumption in British politics that Euroscepticism was somehow a Right-wing issue that only concerned Tory voters. But since 2004, Euroscepticism has increasingly meant concern about unprecedented levels of immigration.
"Today in our big northern cities there is a total disconnect between traditional, patriotic working-class communities and a Labour Party that is based in London, and led by a ideologue who can barely bring himself to sing the national anthem"
Since that date, Britain’s doors have been fully open to very poor former communist countries. It is true that big businesses and many of the rich in our society have enjoyed the supply of lower-waged workers and cheaper domestic staff. Some even believe that George Osborne, the Chancellor, has welcomed massive net migration as a means of boosting GDP figures. But what is certain is that ordinary British people have paid the price.
To them, mass immigration has brought no benefit at all. It has dragged down wages, lengthened social housing lists and stretched all public services, often to breaking point. Perhaps even more significantly, it has caused massive negative change in the cohesion of their local communities.


Over the past few years, Ukip has slowly but surely started to make inroads into the Labour vote, predominantly in the Midlands and the North. But no one noticed. Tory supporters saw a vote for Ukip as a vote lost to the Conservatives. And the Labour Party, deep in its campaign bunker, where it was advised by Douglas Alexander, himself an ex-MP and SNP victim, was deeply complacent in believing that the net effect of Ukip would actually help it in the election.
In fact, many of the key target Labour seats failed to become Labour gains because of the extent of the Ukip vote. The constituencies of North Warwickshire and Ed Balls’s defeat in Morley and Outwood are good examples of places where Ukip took more support from Labour than the Tories. There can be no question that in seats like these up and down the country, Ukip really hurt Labour.


Traditional working-class communities have been left behind by today’s politics. They have had no one left to represent them as the Labour Party has increasingly become a party of middle-class social democrats.
Then Labour elected Jeremy Corbyn as its leader. I laughed out loud when I heard Diane Abbott say in the wake of his victory that he would bring Ukip switchers back home to Labour. His friendship with leading Irish Republicans, dislike of the monarchy, lack of support for the military and desire to give away the Falklands are all anathema to large sections of Labour support in the north of England.
But worse was to come. His hesitation over whether our police should shoot to kill Kalashnikov-toting terrorists has left people appalled. In the past few weeks, I have met many Labour voters in the north of England and I would estimate that nearly 50 per cent of them, all of whom come from families who have been Labour since the First World War, don’t like him as a leader. And many of them are now looking for an alternative

This is true in Oldham West and Royton, where I have spent a lot of time during the course of the campaign for today’s by-election, going out and speaking to people, many of whom are former Labour supporters now switching to Ukip. The issues on which Ukip contested the general election – control of our borders and security of our country – are now uppermost in people’s minds, and what has surprised me in the past few weeks is the sheer strength and passionate new support for Ukip in the North. This has been particularly noticeable among young women with families.
Things change in politics, often more quickly than we believe possible. Just a few years ago, Labour had total dominance in Scotland. But that has now come to an abrupt end with the SNP almost wiping them out. That was unthinkable just five years ago.
Today in our big northern cities there is a total disconnect between traditional, patriotic working-class communities and a Labour Party that is based in London, and led by a ideologue who can barely bring himself to sing the national anthem.
In the North, the realities of life are that people have the lowest incomes and above-average immigration levels. It is also true that the Tory party is dying in these places. Many of our great cities having no local Conservative councillors at all. So it is Ukip that has become the official electoral opposition in these areas. For the moment, Labour may appear well ahead. But it wasn’t long ago when they said that in Scotland.
The first-past-the-post system militates against Ukip, but today we can do what until recently would have been considered impossible – overturn Labour’s huge majority in Oldham. If we do, believe me, Labour dominoes in the north of England will begin to fall.

IF was the word to hang onto
personally, i'ld doubt very much if labour will actually lose oldham, but i'ld be equally surprised if distinct disappointment in corbyn is not registered

AND THIS



Who is Hilary Benn? Labour's leader in waiting
The son of Tony Benn has quickly become a potential new leader of the Labour party as Jeremy Corbyn's leadership falters

By Kate McCann, Senior Political Correspondent10:56AM GMT 03 Dec 2015
The son of Tony Benn, a former president of the Stop the War coalition and hard-left Labour MP, Hilary Benn has sat on the Commons green benches since 1999.
The MP for Leeds central held ministerial posts in international development and the Home Office under Tony Blair and was shadow leader of the House during the coalition government.


Jeremy Corbyn appointed him shadow foreign secretary earlier this year, following his surprise election as leader.
Despite his father’s hard-left credentials, Benn junior has always been at pains to stress that he is a “Benn, not a Bennite”.
Married with four children, he displayed left-wing views in his early political career, after joining the Labour party at 16 before becoming a local councillor in Ealing at just 25.


But Benn admits to a change of heart following the party’s disastrous 1983 election defeat – fought largely on a Bennite manifesto that proposed scrapping Trident and renationalising British Telecom.
The defeat saw Labour lose 51 seats overall while the Conservatives gained 37 to give them a majority of 144 under Margaret Thatcher.

Labour’s manifesto, built on Benn senior’s founding political principles, was described by Gerald Kaufman MP as “the longest suicide note in history”.
Following the defeat Benn junior said: “That was a formative experience for me because we went out on the doorstep and we didn't win the public's confidence.
"It made me very uncomfortable. Personally, that left a mark on me,” he added after the election.

He is liked by colleagues and viewed as a safe pair of hands. The veteran Labour MP also commands the respect of the rest of the House with his unflappable style, evident yesterday as members from other parties took turns to shake his hand.
Benn has been described as a gentle man and slow to anger, though he has in the past drawn criticism for being a bit old fashioned.
A close colleague said he has a reputation for giving passionate speeches when the chips are down and he is reported to have written much of his barnstorming Syria address while sat in the chamber yesterday.