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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 09:48 - 65900 of 81564

But::::::::


MaxK - 04 Dec 2015 10:03 - 65901 of 81564

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 10:16 - 65902 of 81564

PS,

How many votes and what was the % of votes for the tories in Oldham?

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found :

Labour has comfortably won its first parliamentary byelection since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, storming ahead of Ukip by more than 10,000 votes in Oldham West and Royton in Greater Manchester.

Jim McMahon, the 35-year-old leader of Oldham council, will swap the town hall for Westminster after persuading 17,209 people to vote for him. Turnout was 40.26%, down from 59.6% at the general election in May, but not an embarrassment on a very rainy Thursday in December. McMahon increased Labour’s share of the vote to 62.27%, up 7.49%.

Live Corbyn: Jim McMahon's Oldham win is a 'vote of confidence' in Labour – live
Rolling coverage of reaction to Labour’s Jim McMahon winning the Oldham West and Royton byelection, with Jeremy Corbyn planning a visit to celebrate his victory
Read more

Ukip’s John Bickley, a Cheshire-based businessman, was runner-up, on 6,487. It was his fourth second place in Greater Manchester in less than two years, having lost out to Labour in byelections in Wythenshawe and Sale East in February 2014 and Heywood and Middleton in October 2015, failing again there in May’s general election.

The Conservatives were third on 2,596. The Liberal Democrats 1,024, the Greens 249. The Monster Raving Loony party were last, on 141.

In a statement McMahon said: “I am delighted to have been elected tonight. Michael Meacher was a close friend of mine and he was admired by people across the country as someone who worked tirelessly for the causes he believed in. I will do my best to live up to those high standards.


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I suppose the tories were considered a better choice than the Monster Raving Loony party.


JUST.

MaxK - 04 Dec 2015 10:50 - 65903 of 81564

Good ol postal votes, they'll win it every time...



Farage's Fury Over Oldham By-Election Result

Labour dismisses a claim that postal voting was "bent", saying there is "nothing wrong" with people not supporting UKIP.




Nigel Farage wrote a furious tweet about the Oldham West and Royton by-election - even before the result had been declared.


As candidates were told about the outcome behind closed doors, the UKIP leader tweeted: "As a veteran of over 30 by-elections, I have never seen such a perverse result.

"Serious questions need to be asked."

Mr Farage later claimed he had evidence from an "impeccable source" that postal voting was "bent".

According to Sky's Political Editor Faisal Islam, UKIP supporters were "angry and annoyed" as the votes were counted.



http://news.sky.com/story/1599586/farages-fury-over-oldham-by-election-result

MaxK - 04 Dec 2015 10:50 - 65904 of 81564

49 votes from one address?

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 10:56 - 65905 of 81564

Was Oldham's tory party HQ's address?


8-)

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 11:23 - 65906 of 81564

Although I don't vote I have an antipathy to postal voting, unless on it is based on medical incapacity grounds.

I don't see how one can avoid the possibility of abuse of the system.

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But in comparison with abuses by manipulation of media outlets and overseas funding, in practice the distortion are probably be small.

MaxK - 04 Dec 2015 11:37 - 65907 of 81564

Manipulation is all around us Fred, you are quite right! (all sides)

But this postal vote lark is outright fraud.

Haystack - 04 Dec 2015 11:41 - 65908 of 81564

The Oldhm election means very little. The winnr was a popular local chap. The Corbyn faction tried to impose a hard left candidate on the local constituency party but he was rejected and the local boy as chosen. If anything it was a message to Corbyn that moderates are more likely to win.

cynic - 04 Dec 2015 11:49 - 65909 of 81564

spin it any way you like, but labour increased its % of the vote and tories lost a similar %
i agree it doesn't tell anyone a great deal,but the above are indisputable facts

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 12:26 - 65910 of 81564

Quick Hays, down to tory party central office for the latest Lynton Crosby spin.

Suggest you look at known facts and not unrealistic hopeful wish.

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Max.

Getting around the "need" for postal or internet voting and avoiding possible fraud is difficult.

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 12:26 - 65911 of 81564

Quick Hays, down to tory party central office for the latest Lynton Crosby spin.

Suggest you look at known facts and not unrealistic hopeful wish.

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Max.

Getting around the "need" for postal or internet voting and avoiding possible fraud is difficult.

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 12:26 - 65912 of 81564

Quick Hays, down to tory party central office for the latest Lynton Crosby spin.

Suggest you look at known facts and not unrealistic hopeful wish.

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Max.

Getting around the "need" for postal or internet voting and avoiding possible fraud is difficult.

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 12:26 - 65913 of 81564

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Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 12:30 - 65914 of 81564

But I feel the press and some politicians, stoked by the press and media are hysterical at the moment.

I think the politicians should step back and reconsider what they are saying rather resorting to emotional hype.

jimmy b - 04 Dec 2015 12:31 - 65915 of 81564

Hilary Benn for Labour leader then ..

Haystack - 04 Dec 2015 12:33 - 65916 of 81564

The election was a blow to Corbyn. Meacher was a Corbyn supporter. The guy who won is on the right of the party and more like a Blairite.

2517GEORGE - 04 Dec 2015 12:43 - 65917 of 81564

He seems a decent chap and popular with the voters but he will need to perform wonders if he is going to change the hell hole that is Oldham.
2517

cynic - 04 Dec 2015 13:23 - 65918 of 81564

don't be even more of an ass than usual hays!
the labour chap who won was the only labour candidate standing!

Fred1new - 04 Dec 2015 13:43 - 65919 of 81564

Manuel.

Hays went to the Bullingdon Club in mistake for tory Central Office.

Lynton will have to put him on a shorter dog lead.


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