Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

seriously?
try hara kiri then ...... samurai ritual suicide
may i go to sleep now?

Oh that old thing, why didn't you say that -):.. and the answer to your original question is certainly not I'm to young to die

It can be quite complicated...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Blow that for a game of soldiers Max.

Indeed Stan, loons or what?

Touche or something .

an interesting read ......

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/06/isis-expansion-libya-not-sign-of-weakness

But Dave and Haze are at the table:

You should read this. It is the best description of what ISIS is about. It is Clea that we are not making it seriously enough. There is no possibility of negotiations. It is a religious movement that is setting about destroying the world. Be very afraid!

An apocalyptic vision bent on engulfing the world in flame and blood, these people are deadly serious and convinced they are actually serving God by bringing this about. Many discount their rhetoric because it sounds crazy to them, which is a serious mistake, for they are wholly committed to the task, with the full intent of drawing the armies of the world into battle at Dabiq in Syria in fulfillment of their scriptures.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

this too is an interesting read ...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/06/isis-expansion-libya-not-sign-of-weakness

While Cameron cosies up to Russia,


The Guardian


Poland
Poland considering asking for access to nuclear weapons under Nato program
Deputy defence minister says Poland is discussing whether to join other European countries in hosting nuclear arms to strengthen defences
A US air force b52 bomber
Poland’s defence ministry is discussing whether to ask for access to Nato’s ‘nuclear sharing’ program. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
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Poland’s deputy defence minister has said the ministry is considering asking for access to nuclear weapons through a Nato program in which non-nuclear states borrow the arms from the US.


US and Poland in talks over weapons deployment in eastern Europe
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Tomasz Szatkowski said the ministry was discussing whether to ask for access to Nato’s “nuclear sharing” program to strengthen the country’s ability to defend itself.

Polish media said Szatkowski’s comments on Saturday to the private broadcaster Polsat marked the first time a Polish official has indicated the country wants to join the program.

Among Nato’s 28 members there are three nuclear powers – the US, France and Britain – but only the US has provided weapons to allies for nuclear sharing.

Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey have hosted nuclear weapons as part of the program.

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Mind he could sell a few more arms to the Saudis or Egypt!

hey fred ...... have you got any room left for a few more refugees? ...... it seems stories of your largesse and generosity have even reached this part of the world

i said you only had a small camper van, but they seemed to think that could easily house 20 of them

they're really keen to come to uk as there's no welfare state or even minimum wages for imported foreign labour here, and they've heard great things about the uk's benefit system ...... they promise to support corbyn too as they know labour would make life positive nirvana for them

may i given them your full contact details or at least that of your local labour party offices and contact person?

Manuel.

You remind me of a camp dog turning its back on its own, when it has found a haven for itself!

Go For It JEZZA! Up The Revolution!! LOL!!


Jeremy Corbyn to sack shadow cabinet ministers who disagree with his anti-war policies
Jeremy Corbyn's allies warn he will reshuffle his senior team to remove his enemies from positions of power

By Tim Ross, Senior Political Correspondent8:16PM GMT 05 Dec 2015
Jeremy Corbyn’s close associates are secretly planning to purge the shadow cabinet of moderate MPs who disagree with his radical, anti-war policies, as he seeks to impose his will on the Labour Party.
In the aftermath of the Commons vote on bombing Syria last week, allies of the Labour leader warned that he would reshuffle his senior team to remove his enemies from positions of power.
“There are not enough Left-wing MPs in the parliamentary Labour party and we need to change that. Every constituency is going to be redrawn so we can protect some people and get rid of others.”
The clear-out of the moderates could come as soon as next month, in a New Year reshuffle, as part of a four-pronged strategy to strengthen the Labour leader’s grip on his MPs.

Critics warned the leadership’s revenge mission would lead to “permanent war” inside Labour.

Labour's lost frontbenchers:-


Ten ministers resigned from Labour’s front bench after Jeremy Corbyn’s victory:
1. Shabana Mahmood: Former Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
2. Yvette Cooper: Shadow Home Secretary
3. Liz Kendall: Former Shadow Minister for Care and Older People
4. Tristram Hunt: Former Shadow Education Secretary
5. Rachel Reeves: Former Shadow Work and Pensions Minister
6. Chris Leslie: Former Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
7. Emma Reynolds: Former Shadow Communities Minister
8. Jamie Reed: Former Shadow Health Minister
9. Chuka Umunna: Former Shadow Secretary of State for Business
10. Caroline Flint: Shadow Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change

Congratulations on 10 years, David Cameron - but don't rest on your laurels
Telegraph View: The Prime Minister can be proud of his record as Tory leader. Now for the challenges ahead.


By Telegraph View7:00AM GMT 06 Dec 2015Comments81 Comments
What a difference a decade makes. On December 6 2005, David Cameron was elected as leader of the Conservative Party. He had shown his star quality during the leadership campaign, notably in his barnstorming speech to the party conference, but he was still an unknown quantity – a young, untested figure who had won the leadership not through a glittering CV but because his promise of a “modern, compassionate Conservative Party” struck a chord with a membership scarred by three humiliating electoral defeats.
To say that Mr Cameron has grown into the role is an understatement. Ten years on, he stands as the dominant figure in British politics – the man who, with a little help from George Osborne and Lynton Crosby, has made the Conservative Party appear once more to be the natural party of government. True, he has been lucky in his enemies: Gordon Brown, Ed Miliband and now Jeremy Corbyn.
Mr Cameron has insisted that he will not fight another general election. That means that his place in history will be shaped, and determined, by what happens in the next few years.
But he has also shown a pugnacity and tenacity that could only be guessed at back in 2005. He has started to overhaul welfare and education, helped the low-paid, enabled the private sector to create millions of jobs, widened the Tory party’s electoral appeal, and made commendable progress in cutting back the state’s excesses after the profligacy of the Labour years. He was rewarded, earlier this year, with a remarkable and unexpected election victory, one that proved so traumatising to the Labour Party that it allowed itself to be captured by the most extreme elements of the Left.
Mr Cameron has insisted that he will not fight another general election. That means that his place in history will be shaped, and determined, by what happens in the next few years. Such, indeed, is the fluidity of the political scene – in Britain, in Europe, and across the world – that these final years in office will be enormously significant. They will, assuming all goes well, see the completion of Mr Osborne’s deficit reduction programme, the culmination of a decade-long reshaping of the state. They will hopefully see us resolve – one way or the other – the vexed question of our relationship with the European Union. They will see us threatened further by the forces of Islamist extremism, both at home and abroad. That is on top of other crucial issues in Mr Cameron’s in-tray – for example, how to work through the tensions between Scotland and England in a way that creates a sustainable future for the United Kingdom, and whether to push ahead with Heathrow expansion, in the face of opposition from London’s politicians.

There is, of course, a certain irony here. Mr Cameron’s argument, during his leadership campaign of 2005, was that the Conservatives had talked too much about Europe, immigration and public spending. Yet these are the issues he must now tackle – and it is his success in doing so that will determine whether his premiership is ultimately perceived as a success or failure.
Regrettably, Mr Cameron has sometimes taken the path of least resistance: for example, in choosing recently to tax businesses and second-home owners, rather than prioritising spending cuts. But he now faces decisions he cannot and should not duck – for example, over airport expansion or getting the best possible deal for Britain in Europe, even if it incurs the wrath of other EU leaders. He should be encouraged that, since he took power, he has won most acclaim for his toughest decisions – for the moments when he or his ministers did what was right, rather than what was easy. And unlike Tony Blair, upon whom his 2005 campaign was modelled, he is blessed with a Chancellor who will cooperate with his wishes, rather than obstruct them.
If he uses his remaining time in Downing Street to establish himself as a truly brave and radical Conservative prime minister, on domestic as well as foreign issues, then Mr Cameron will leave office as a leader who improved public services, salvaged the public finances, and enhanced Britain’s security and its standing in the world. That would certainly be a legacy to be proud of.





Give it five minutes for Fred to recover from his heart attack!! LOL!!!