goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 07 Dec 2015 14:16
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I say bring back golliwog badges that you can buy with marmalade.
Re-instate the black sheep in the nursery rhyme, Baa Baa Black Sheep.
Long Live Noddy and Big Ears.
And if your crap at football, tennis, cricket, rugby etc tough shit! Either learn or go on a diet!
2517GEORGE
- 07 Dec 2015 14:38
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I couldn't agree more Chris, the vast majority see the above as totally innocuous, the PC brigade have created problems where there aren't any. At the same time the so called hate preachers can spew their bile untouched.
2517
Chris Carson
- 07 Dec 2015 14:42
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Exactly George. Don't get me started on the jobs for the boys Health and Safety Mob. :0)
Fred1new
- 07 Dec 2015 14:46
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2517
It depends on which side of the fence you are on.
jimmy b
- 07 Dec 2015 15:00
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Remember the Blackboard is now a chalk board Chris .
2517GEORGE
- 07 Dec 2015 15:03
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No he is just verifying the point I made.
2517
Chris Carson
- 07 Dec 2015 15:11
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Aye Jimmy you couldn't make it up LOL!!!
Haystack
- 07 Dec 2015 15:25
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Here is a treat for the lefties on here. A famous quote from Lenin in response to liberal democracy.
“To decide once every few years which member of the ruling class is to repress and crush the people through parliament- this is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarism. Liberal democracy is thus seen as an archetypal bourgeois system which is ‘ hemmed in by the narrow limits set by capitalist exploitation’ and is thus ‘ a democracy for the minority, only for the propertied classes, only for the rich.’
MaxK
- 07 Dec 2015 15:47
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True enough though Haystack.
Problem is, the other side are worse!
Fred1new
- 07 Dec 2015 16:33
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Hays won't understand this C+P/
But remember who whipped his party over the vote on Syria and why he did it!
Perhaps, they were missing a good thrashing!
"Or do they follow Edmund Burke’s classic formulation that the highest duty of an MP is to exercise his or her individual conscience and judgment? “It ought to be the happiness and glory of a representative to live in the strictest union, the closest correspondence, and the most unreserved communication with his constituents. Their wishes ought to have great weight with him; their opinion, high respect; their business, unremitted attention… But his unbiased opinion, his mature judgment, his enlightened conscience, he ought not to sacrifice to you, to any man, or to any set of men living… Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.”
I lean to the Burkeian definition of the role of an MP. I’d rather have his or her honest judgment than a slavish obedience to opinions imposed on them. But there is no law about this. Most MPs manage to muddle through, answering the accountability conundrum by striking compromises between their own opinions and the sometimes conflicting demands of their leadership, their members and their constituents."
Also, what is the opinion those who are whipped and vote against their "conscience", even though they considered it pragmatic to do so?
Fred1new
- 07 Dec 2015 16:33
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MaxK
- 07 Dec 2015 20:09
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EU's Donald Tusk tells David Cameron: no deal over welfare plan
Donald Tusk, president of European Council, gives Prime Minister February deadline to complete EU renegotiation, as he warns there is 'no consensus' for welfare reforms
Paul Nuttall, the Ukip deputy leader, said Mr Cameron now has no choice but to campaign to leave, after privately promising to support an exit if his demands were ignored.
“President Tusk has called Cameron’s bluff. Britain has been told we will get no substantial change on welfare benefits for EU migrants. Cameron must now follow through on his threat to campaign to leave the EU as he has not received even the minor changes that that he asked for."
full story here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12037568/EUs-Donald-Tusk-tells-David-Cameron-no-deal-over-welfare-plan.html
Fred1new
- 07 Dec 2015 21:56
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Max.
it is OK.
Cameron can cosy up with Marine Le Pen and really be a breath of fresh air the UK and Europe.
Imagine Marine and Dave and the neo-cons right wing divvying up Europe.
Fred1new
- 07 Dec 2015 22:04
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Who is the tragedy?
World | Mon Dec 7, 2015 8:55pm GMT Related: WORLD, UK, IMF
Osborne calls U.S. Congress's China stance a 'tragedy'
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-osborne-idUKKBN0TQ2BL20151207?feedType=nl&feedName=worldNews
VICTIM
- 08 Dec 2015 08:09
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It is my belief basically that Britain and the British way of life is seriously threatened . With this massive influx of Foreigners who basically don't integrate , breed faster , have their own laws , do nothing for local communities , impose their beliefs on you etc etc . Aided and abetted by the EU which goes mad on H & S , only to allow some of the most dangerous scum ever to live on the Planet to fester and plan their terror in two of the biggest cities in the EU , Brussels being unbelievable . Some want to stay inside this what is becoming a nightmare .
jimmy b
- 08 Dec 2015 08:21
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Paul Nuttall, the Ukip deputy leader, said Mr Cameron now has no choice but to campaign to leave, after privately promising to support an exit if his demands were ignored.
“President Tusk has called Cameron’s bluff. Britain has been told we will get no substantial change on welfare benefits for EU migrants. Cameron must now follow through on his threat to campaign to leave the EU as he has not received even the minor changes that that he asked for."
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The above from Max last night , i agree that Cameron will be in a tricky situation if he doesn't get what he wants ,
What does he do then ? vote out with the rest of us ?
VICTIM
- 08 Dec 2015 08:25
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Was it 1 million asylum seekers into Germany as of yesterday , just the start .
Fred1new
- 08 Dec 2015 08:30
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This thread is beginning to read like the Donald Trumps of the ENP.
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Wait for the N.E wanting to leave the UK after devolvement!
VICTIM
- 08 Dec 2015 08:31
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UP YOURS .