Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Manuel,

It was recognised post WW2, 40s/50s/60s that the coal industry in the UK was in financial trouble and decline for many reasons, mainly due to geological profile compared with other parts of the world.

(There were profitable or economically viable pits during that period.)

Part of the reasoning for the "Nationalisation" of the industry and its "subsidising" was for the social consequences of not doing so with the closure of pits and massive unemployment and possible "social" unrest.

It was not the policy of closing the "pits", but the speed of "implementation" and the same lack of preparation for the "social" consequences of doing so, which I disagreed with.

If it had been more gradual with "retraining" and "development" of "replacement" industry or employment, as had started in some areas of the UK in the 30s, it would have been more acceptable.

(I recognise the problems of unions and often "hamfisted" management.)

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The same sort of ineptitude the present government policies and Brexit.

Exec,

Perhaps a little more humility by the "up and at em" brigade of "Brexiters" prior to the start of negotiation would have have been more appropriate.

So we've had not 24hrs yet and we may as well give up then .

Something new to you Freda , the word VOTE eh .

T. May wanted to secure the rights of British Nationals in Europe and Europeans in Britain many weeks ago but Merkel flatly refused, creating unnecessary uncertainty for those affected.

Fred as posted a cartoon backing BREXIT., .... lol

You get the feeling that there's no need for EU negotiators , we may as well just go straight to Merkel and sort it out , could be done in a week probably . We will see what's what if she wins here election how good or bad it will be .

aldwickkk

Fred as posted a cartoon backing BREXIT., .... lol

No he hasn't. He's posted up a cartoon where a gentleman who previously voted 'Leave' (ie. Brexit) is now asking if he can change his mind, because he is reading how chaotic ('Brexit CHAOS') the process is undoubtedly going to be.

6607 - fred - you are too obsessed and micro-focussed ..... it was the wider picture of the lack of apprenticeships and vocational courses for the less academic that might make for more interesting discussion

BREXIT
the public posturing that we see and read about is for domestic consumption
the real work and negotiation goes on behind closed doors

... or doesn't.

ExecLine

BREXIT, they lied. The remainders lied [ Project Fear ] , And that paper he is reading would show the stockmarket going up not down.

And the concentration of UKIP on immigration was wishing for a policy of "love" rather than "fear" and/or "hate"?
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Everyone pretty happy by the letter of Brexit, apart from "freda" she must represent the other nasty one " Merkel ".
Is she another "bitch"? ( she likes that word by now as her blood goes blue)
note - If Blood Is Red, Why Do Veins Look Blue?


UK PM May's spokesman says EU leaders appreciated tone of Brexit letter

LONDON, March 30 (Reuters) - European Union leaders appreciated the tone of a letter sent by Prime Minister Theresa May setting out Britain's intention to withdraw from the bloc, May's spokesman told reporters on Thursday.

The spokesman said May had spoken to the President of the European Parliament and the leaders of Ireland, Poland, Italy, France and Spain since Britain formally triggered the process of leaving the EU on Wednesday.

"They were warm, constructive," he told reporters when asked about the calls. "The feedback that we have had is that the tone of the letter was appreciated and considered to be constructive."

I wonder what would have been the result of ploughing all the cash and effort into reforming the "EU's rules and regulations" compared with trying to "escape from" and "destroy" from the institution the UK helped to organise and setup.

Looks like the actions of overgrown adolescents.

No wonder Europe won't trust the UK government escaping its responsibilities.

I wonder what would have been the result of ploughing all the cash and effort into reforming the "EU's rules and regulations" compared with trying to "escape from" and "destroy" from the institution the UK helped to organise and setup.

Looks like the actions of overgrown adolescents.

No wonder Europe won't trust the UK government escaping its responsibilities.

Fred you can take a horse to water

I bet your mate Stan didn't vote to stay, haven't seen any support from him.

YOUR wasting your time with him really. Anti government , anti English , anti voting , anti anybody that comes along who doesn't agree , anti common sense . anti modern world . Still puts out multiple threads , oh yes always refers back to previous periods in time , which aren't relevant anymore .