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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 10:22 - 6608 of 12628

Exec,

Perhaps a little more humility by the "up and at em" brigade of "Brexiters" prior to the start of negotiation would have have been more appropriate.

VICTIM - 30 Mar 2017 10:25 - 6609 of 12628

So we've had not 24hrs yet and we may as well give up then .

Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 10:26 - 6610 of 12628

VICTIM - 30 Mar 2017 10:31 - 6611 of 12628

Something new to you Freda , the word VOTE eh .

2517GEORGE - 30 Mar 2017 10:32 - 6612 of 12628

T. May wanted to secure the rights of British Nationals in Europe and Europeans in Britain many weeks ago but Merkel flatly refused, creating unnecessary uncertainty for those affected.

aldwickkk - 30 Mar 2017 10:39 - 6613 of 12628

Fred as posted a cartoon backing BREXIT., .... lol

VICTIM - 30 Mar 2017 10:42 - 6614 of 12628

You get the feeling that there's no need for EU negotiators , we may as well just go straight to Merkel and sort it out , could be done in a week probably . We will see what's what if she wins here election how good or bad it will be .

ExecLine - 30 Mar 2017 10:55 - 6615 of 12628

aldwickkk

Fred as posted a cartoon backing BREXIT., .... lol

No he hasn't. He's posted up a cartoon where a gentleman who previously voted 'Leave' (ie. Brexit) is now asking if he can change his mind, because he is reading how chaotic ('Brexit CHAOS') the process is undoubtedly going to be.

cynic - 30 Mar 2017 11:25 - 6616 of 12628

6607 - fred - you are too obsessed and micro-focussed ..... it was the wider picture of the lack of apprenticeships and vocational courses for the less academic that might make for more interesting discussion

cynic - 30 Mar 2017 11:26 - 6617 of 12628

BREXIT
the public posturing that we see and read about is for domestic consumption
the real work and negotiation goes on behind closed doors

ExecLine - 30 Mar 2017 11:31 - 6618 of 12628

... or doesn't.

aldwickkk - 30 Mar 2017 11:53 - 6619 of 12628

ExecLine

BREXIT, they lied. The remainders lied [ Project Fear ] , And that paper he is reading would show the stockmarket going up not down.

Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 12:11 - 6620 of 12628

And the concentration of UKIP on immigration was wishing for a policy of "love" rather than "fear" and/or "hate"?
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mentor - 30 Mar 2017 12:14 - 6621 of 12628

Everyone pretty happy by the letter of Brexit, apart from "freda" she must represent the other nasty one " Merkel ".
Is she another "bitch"? ( she likes that word by now as her blood goes blue)
note - If Blood Is Red, Why Do Veins Look Blue?


UK PM May's spokesman says EU leaders appreciated tone of Brexit letter

LONDON, March 30 (Reuters) - European Union leaders appreciated the tone of a letter sent by Prime Minister Theresa May setting out Britain's intention to withdraw from the bloc, May's spokesman told reporters on Thursday.

The spokesman said May had spoken to the President of the European Parliament and the leaders of Ireland, Poland, Italy, France and Spain since Britain formally triggered the process of leaving the EU on Wednesday.

"They were warm, constructive," he told reporters when asked about the calls. "The feedback that we have had is that the tone of the letter was appreciated and considered to be constructive."


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Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 15:24 - 6622 of 12628

I wonder what would have been the result of ploughing all the cash and effort into reforming the "EU's rules and regulations" compared with trying to "escape from" and "destroy" from the institution the UK helped to organise and setup.

Looks like the actions of overgrown adolescents.

No wonder Europe won't trust the UK government escaping its responsibilities.

Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 15:24 - 6623 of 12628

I wonder what would have been the result of ploughing all the cash and effort into reforming the "EU's rules and regulations" compared with trying to "escape from" and "destroy" from the institution the UK helped to organise and setup.

Looks like the actions of overgrown adolescents.

No wonder Europe won't trust the UK government escaping its responsibilities.

2517GEORGE - 30 Mar 2017 15:43 - 6624 of 12628

Fred you can take a horse to water

aldwickkk - 30 Mar 2017 15:45 - 6625 of 12628

I bet your mate Stan didn't vote to stay, haven't seen any support from him.

VICTIM - 30 Mar 2017 15:54 - 6626 of 12628

YOUR wasting your time with him really. Anti government , anti English , anti voting , anti anybody that comes along who doesn't agree , anti common sense . anti modern world . Still puts out multiple threads , oh yes always refers back to previous periods in time , which aren't relevant anymore .

Fred1new - 30 Mar 2017 16:54 - 6627 of 12628

Vicky,

I don't follow a mob without first thinking about what they are raving and whether it is correct for me to give support.

Usually, I don't get taken in by offers sweets, or false bribes, unlike some who seem unable to see further than the end of their own noses.
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