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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

mentor - 16 Dec 2015 13:10 - 66271 of 81564

Strange but true .......
...... employment UP by 177,000, but unemployment also up by 3,900

Employment jumped 177,000 to 31.2 million.

Additionally, the number of people claiming unemployment related benefits increased by 3,900 in November from the prior month.

jimmy b - 16 Dec 2015 13:26 - 66272 of 81564

That's due to immigration ..

2517GEORGE - 16 Dec 2015 13:44 - 66273 of 81564

jimmy b here is the article, it's from Capital & Conflict a Moneyweek research publication.

What if the British people vote to ‘leave’ the European Union and the European Union (or the government) ignores them? A referendum, as far as I can tell, has no binding legal authority. It’s merely the will of the people. But in a parliamentary democracy, your MP’s vote counts more than yours (at least on this issue.)
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Fred1new - 16 Dec 2015 13:45 - 66274 of 81564

They are the ones working!

jimmy b - 16 Dec 2015 14:00 - 66275 of 81564

George that's very disturbing .

2517GEORGE - 16 Dec 2015 14:16 - 66276 of 81564

Ref my post 66215

It was the Treaty of Lisbon that the EU forced Ireland to vote again

Only one member state, Ireland, intended to ratify the Treaty of Lisbon through a referendum.
Ireland - 53.2% against (12 June 2008)
Since the vote by the Republic of Ireland on the Lisbon Treaty, the European Commission has stated that the Treaty would not force Ireland to change its view on issues such as having a permanent (as opposed to rotating) commissioner, military neutrality and abortion. The Irish voted again on the Lisbon Treaty on 2 October 2009. The vote was 67.1% in favour of the treaty.
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Haystack - 16 Dec 2015 14:28 - 66277 of 81564

It is true. The legislation passed recently only enables a referendum. It cannot bind the Commons. It would be followed by a vote in the HoC if the referendum indicted the UK to leave the EU. However, if the house voted to ignore the referendum there would be chaos. Quite a few of the Conservative backbenchers would support a no confidence vote. In practice, it is inconceivable that the Commons would vote against exit. The same rule applies to the Scottish split.

Haystack - 16 Dec 2015 14:39 - 66278 of 81564

The Lisbon Treaty was a con. We were supposed to have a vote on the Maastricht Treaty. Ireland voted against it and the UK and a couple of other countries looked like voting against it. The treaty was cancelled. It was redrafted as the Lisbon Treaty and was almost word for word the same as the Maastricht Treaty. Labour cancelled our vote on the treaty by saying that they had only promised a vote on the Maastricht Treaty and this one had a different name. Blair also gave away our veto on EU legislation at the same time.

MaxK - 16 Dec 2015 14:52 - 66279 of 81564

Tilting at windmills....




EU referendum: David Cameron vows to get 'good deal for Britain' but Angela Merkel warns free movement and migrant benefits will not change - live

German Chancellor issues threat to David Cameron on the eve of his crunch talks with EU leaders as he seeks to curb in-work benefits for migrants - live coverage



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12052929/eu-referendum-brexit-fears-ahead-of-david-cameron-jeremy-corbyn-pmqs-live.html

VICTIM - 16 Dec 2015 14:52 - 66280 of 81564

Just shows what individual Governments are , that is a puppet to the ever increasing monolith that is the EU , I'm starting to feel trapped and unable to do anything about anything really . We still have these new joiners to come yet and their army of free riders , plus look after any home grown youth and their employment prospects .

jimmy b - 16 Dec 2015 14:59 - 66281 of 81564

We are in a state VIC , Britain is nearly finished ,i dread to think what it will look like in 20 years , no make that 10 years .

VICTIM - 16 Dec 2015 15:01 - 66282 of 81564

I wish someone would take that bitch out of the picture , I mean that most sincerely folks .

2517GEORGE - 16 Dec 2015 15:03 - 66283 of 81564

Instead of sourcing their young workers from migrants outside the EU block, why didn't Germany look to Spain and their vast resource of unemployed young workers?
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VICTIM - 16 Dec 2015 15:07 - 66284 of 81564

George that's what i said , maybe she doesn't want to aid her EU rivals and stay way ahead with her Syrian lower paid convenient for her , refugees . Just think about it .

2517GEORGE - 16 Dec 2015 15:19 - 66285 of 81564

I gather from your post 66285 Frau Merkel is not on your Christmas card list.
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VICTIM - 16 Dec 2015 15:23 - 66286 of 81564

Not really she seems to see herself as the voice of Europe .

Haystack - 16 Dec 2015 15:34 - 66287 of 81564

Here is a bizarre article

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-we-should-grant-isis-diplomatic-recognition-a6773761.html

Why it's time to grant Isis diplomatic recognition

When pariah states are brought into the international system, they become subject to constraints.

jimmy b - 16 Dec 2015 16:39 - 66288 of 81564

One Hour Compilation of how Islam is Ruining Europe and America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA

cynic - 16 Dec 2015 16:52 - 66289 of 81564

V - 66287 - just got back ...... i think it may have something to do with germany's falling population - ie it was a way to boost it albeit somewhat artificially and very stupidly as was quickly seen

mentor - 16 Dec 2015 17:31 - 66290 of 81564

I would like to know who paid the jury
and then we complain this things happen elsewhere

Saudi millionaire cleared of rape after claiming he 'accidentally tripped and penetrated' teen

Southwark Crown Court
A jury at Southwark Crown Court acquitted Abdulaziz of the rape charge.

A Saudi millionaire has been cleared of raping a teenager after telling a court he may have accidentally penetrated the 18-year-old when he tripped and fell on her.

Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, was accused of forcing himself on the girl who had slept on his sofa at his flat in Maida Vale, London, after a night out drinking.

The property developer had just had sex with the girl's 24-year-old friend, whom he already knew, and claimed his penis might have been poking out of his underwear when he fell on the teenager.

He claimed he had gone to see if the girl had wanted a t-shirt to sleep in or a taxi home. He added that she pulled him on top of her and placed his hand between her legs and that was when he fell.

The teenager said she woke up in the early hours with Abdulaziz on top of her and forcing himself inside her.

His semen was found inside the girl, but he said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having just had sex with her friend.

Abdulaziz had met the 18-year-old in the Cirque le Soir nightclub on 7 August 2014 when she was with her friend who was already known to the businessman.

The three went back to his apartment and drank vodka before Abdulaziz had sex with the 24-year-old in his bedroom.

He was cleared of one count of rape at Southwark Crown court and was acquitted by the jury after just 30 minutes of deliberations.
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