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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

mentor - 16 Dec 2015 17:31 - 66290 of 81564

I would like to know who paid the jury
and then we complain this things happen elsewhere

Saudi millionaire cleared of rape after claiming he 'accidentally tripped and penetrated' teen

Southwark Crown Court
A jury at Southwark Crown Court acquitted Abdulaziz of the rape charge.

A Saudi millionaire has been cleared of raping a teenager after telling a court he may have accidentally penetrated the 18-year-old when he tripped and fell on her.

Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, was accused of forcing himself on the girl who had slept on his sofa at his flat in Maida Vale, London, after a night out drinking.

The property developer had just had sex with the girl's 24-year-old friend, whom he already knew, and claimed his penis might have been poking out of his underwear when he fell on the teenager.

He claimed he had gone to see if the girl had wanted a t-shirt to sleep in or a taxi home. He added that she pulled him on top of her and placed his hand between her legs and that was when he fell.

The teenager said she woke up in the early hours with Abdulaziz on top of her and forcing himself inside her.

His semen was found inside the girl, but he said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having just had sex with her friend.

Abdulaziz had met the 18-year-old in the Cirque le Soir nightclub on 7 August 2014 when she was with her friend who was already known to the businessman.

The three went back to his apartment and drank vodka before Abdulaziz had sex with the 24-year-old in his bedroom.

He was cleared of one count of rape at Southwark Crown court and was acquitted by the jury after just 30 minutes of deliberations.

cynic - 16 Dec 2015 17:38 - 66291 of 81564

surely that's not the whole story?
if it is, it's absolutely outrageous ...... i'm afraid saudi men and indeed women have an appalling record of how they treat women in general
but that is the obvious kneejerk reaction

the girl clearly and willingly allowed herself to be picked up with her friend and they all went back to this chap's flat and got ratted ..... surely she didn't just go back to the flat expecting a chat and a cup of cocoa? ....... also, her friend was clearly an "enthusiastic amateur" at best, and arguably ...... well, i leave that to you to decide, as all sorts of possibilities

on reflection, a conviction may well have been deemed unsafe - as was this chap's sex

MaxK - 16 Dec 2015 18:16 - 66292 of 81564

The prosecution should never of had the go ahead, the two are clearly hookers.

cynic - 16 Dec 2015 19:59 - 66293 of 81564

i never suggested such a thing :-)

MaxK - 16 Dec 2015 20:39 - 66294 of 81564

He's damn lucky it wasn't Sweden where this took place, he'd have been down the swanee and no looking back.

Fred1new - 16 Dec 2015 21:31 - 66295 of 81564

Max and Cynic.

Are those opinions based on personal experience?

Stan - 17 Dec 2015 00:31 - 66296 of 81564

Come on Alf answer the question -):

Haystack - 17 Dec 2015 01:44 - 66297 of 81564



"Many times I have seen Jeremy Corbyn in the Houses of Parliament and also outside in many conferences that have been held by the Bahraini opposition."
Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb

5:18PM GMT 16 Dec 2015

Terrorist who attended human rights conferences with Jeremy Corbyn faces jail

Court hears Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb claimed he was a leading human rights activist but was found with guides of how to be a terrorist

terrorist who met with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is behind bars after he was caught with material that could have led "to the deaths of many people".

Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, 51, claims he has been a leading human rights activist in his native Bahrain since the age of 14.

He met with the Labour leader "many times" to discuss the human rights situation in Bahrain and attended the home of Lord Eric Avebury, Vice Chair of the Parliamentary Human Rights Group.

But when police raided his Maida Vale home they discovered a 16GB SD card loaded with military files on "bombs", "missiles" and "destruction" alongside Jihadi exam papers.

They also found photos of Al Shayeb in combat fatigues along with a PowerPoint presentation displaying instructions about the assembly, calibration and best shooting positions for a Dragunov sniper rifle.

Al Shayeb claimed the sniper rifle presentation showed only how protect oneself against the weapon and stated that he had only been shown a simple version - minus the "Shia" fighters and Arabic text seen in court.

He was also stopped on arrival into Gatwick airport from Baghdad four months earlier in possession of a 2GB memory card containing identical information retrieved from the deleted files.

"We are looking at the information you might want or need if planning to bring down a regime by stealth and by force, and by terror tactics - particularly when it comes to bombs, missiles and mortars," said prosecutor Max Hill, QC.

A jury of six men and six women at Snaresbrook Crown Court took almost seven hours to reach their decision on the evidence.

Al Shayeb, who works at Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital as a patient advocate, showed no emotion as the verdict was read out but flashed the "peace" sign at friends in the public gallery.

Judge Martyn Zeidman, QC, told Al Shayeb: "The material on your memory card was dynamite.

"Misuse of that material could have given rise to the deaths of many people.

"An immediate prison sentence is inevitable."

Stan - 17 Dec 2015 02:05 - 66298 of 81564



Having trouble sleeping again H/S, here he is for you.. sleep tight now -):

VICTIM - 17 Dec 2015 07:51 - 66299 of 81564

All this just shows me any Muslim has the ability to turn into a Jihadist , and the more that come put pressure on local communities and resentment against Muslims . These Muslims then feel oppressed and feel they need to react with violence . That's what will happen throughout EU , and all funded by EU countries tax payers . These EU leaders are going to be responsible for it all .

cynic - 17 Dec 2015 08:09 - 66300 of 81564

66299 - i have no idea what the question was

anyway, perhaps i should just follow your guru's route and just ignore

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2015 08:30 - 66301 of 81564

Hays,

Does he think he is in the Bullingdon Club or a whore shop?

Strikes me he would be at home in either!

iturama - 17 Dec 2015 09:59 - 66302 of 81564

I dont know why you bother cynic. Fred, although long squelched, shows the occasional glimpse of intelligence in an avalanche of garbage; his sidekick is just plain thick.

cynic - 17 Dec 2015 10:06 - 66303 of 81564

fred i totally ignore >95% of the time
stan's actually ok as he also contributes elsewhere

Haystack - 17 Dec 2015 10:22 - 66304 of 81564



"Many times I have seen Jeremy Corbyn in the Houses of Parliament and also outside in many conferences that have been held by the Bahraini opposition."
Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb

5:18PM GMT 16 Dec 2015

Terrorist who attended human rights conferences with Jeremy Corbyn faces jail

Court hears Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb claimed he was a leading human rights activist but was found with guides of how to be a terrorist

terrorist who met with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is behind bars after he was caught with material that could have led "to the deaths of many people".

Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, 51, claims he has been a leading human rights activist in his native Bahrain since the age of 14.

He met with the Labour leader "many times" to discuss the human rights situation in Bahrain and attended the home of Lord Eric Avebury, Vice Chair of the Parliamentary Human Rights Group.

But when police raided his Maida Vale home they discovered a 16GB SD card loaded with military files on "bombs", "missiles" and "destruction" alongside Jihadi exam papers.

They also found photos of Al Shayeb in combat fatigues along with a PowerPoint presentation displaying instructions about the assembly, calibration and best shooting positions for a Dragunov sniper rifle.

Al Shayeb claimed the sniper rifle presentation showed only how protect oneself against the weapon and stated that he had only been shown a simple version - minus the "Shia" fighters and Arabic text seen in court.

He was also stopped on arrival into Gatwick airport from Baghdad four months earlier in possession of a 2GB memory card containing identical information retrieved from the deleted files.

"We are looking at the information you might want or need if planning to bring down a regime by stealth and by force, and by terror tactics - particularly when it comes to bombs, missiles and mortars," said prosecutor Max Hill, QC.

A jury of six men and six women at Snaresbrook Crown Court took almost seven hours to reach their decision on the evidence.

Al Shayeb, who works at Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital as a patient advocate, showed no emotion as the verdict was read out but flashed the "peace" sign at friends in the public gallery.

Judge Martyn Zeidman, QC, told Al Shayeb: "The material on your memory card was dynamite.

"Misuse of that material could have given rise to the deaths of many people.

"An immediate prison sentence is inevitable."

2517GEORGE - 17 Dec 2015 10:28 - 66305 of 81564

At best Corbyn has extremely poor judgement in his choice of acquaintances.
2517

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2015 10:28 - 66306 of 81564

Hays.

I suppose it is a little like Cameron and Osborme flogging arms to Saudi Arabia and Egypt for a quick buck!

Of course, the UK economic back pockets are more important than "human rights".


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Stan - 17 Dec 2015 10:29 - 66307 of 81564

You have already posted that H/S.. boy you really are desperate these days.

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2015 10:30 - 66308 of 81564

Rubbing one's nose, like the above, was suggested to be the sign of lying!

Fred1new - 17 Dec 2015 10:31 - 66309 of 81564

Stan.

Party central office is running out of fracking ideas!

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