Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manston is just too far. It is 80 miles from London on the coast. People from London won't drive there. They will just book with the existing airports. I certainly would. It is all unrealistic as there are really only two choices and Heathrow is favourite.

I think that an estuary airport should be the big solution as there is nothing there....spending a fortune on a third runway is wrong......I would make do with 2 runways and build out there on the thames...it might take 20 years as the cost will be enormous but something fantastic would be achieved and think of all the new housing that heathrow area would have ......but knowing that the british prefer quick fixes to longterm solutions....they will go for the third runway....don't blame me if there are massive protests....we should design and build things that we can be proud of...not ashamed of....the money that is designated for the third runway would get things going out on the estuary !....

Get with it H/S this London centric stuff is so out of kilter with current (and more importantly) future Transport planning.

Climate Change is the big issue emissions have to come down. Driving 80 miles is not and option, as already said the Channel Rail link is in place from central London and Stratford and that's the way forward.

Haze,




What is the spin from tory central office on this?

Was it a training program of Maggie's?

ANOTHER top Conservative resigns over bullying scandal: Thatcher foundation chief forced to quit over links to 'Tatler Tory'
Donal Blaney has resigned as leader of Conservative Way Forward group
Comes after Mail on Sunday exposed links with controversial Mark Clarke
Piles more pressure on Lord Feldman to resign over claims about Clarke Grant Shapps already gone and other senior members may be implicated

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367357/ANOTHER-Conservative-resigns-bullying-scandal-Thatcher-foundation-chief-forced-quit-links-Tatler-Tory.html

What the public think!

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A few more details, pro's and cons to the airport saga.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Estuary_Airport

Stansted is dominated by the Ryanair's,easy jet, and large amounts of freight being transported to all regions of the world. (Fedxs, Tnts, Atlas cargo etc) . The holiday flights from the likes of Thompsons and Thomas Cook are small beer. Stansted is still to far from London. Gatwick is 80 miles distance. A cab fair is in the region of £90. The cheap flight boys have always been keen on Stansted but it has struggled to pull in majors. I think one company has just started flying to the states.

Like Jacob Rees-Mogg, I live under the flight path at Heathrow and it doesnt bother me one iota. The airport was there before me and I have the convenience of it being only 15 mins away. Stansted is normally 1.25 mins and God knows what it would be to an estuary airport. Probably have to take a flight since the M25 is already a car park on most days. Good for some people maybe but not for anyone living to the west of London, apart from the jobs of the tens of thousands of local people employed at Heathrow.
The extensive studies have shown that Heathrow is the best. Just get on with it Cameron and phase out diesel engines since they are the real polluters, not the aircraft.

Opinium/Observer –

CON 38, LAB 30, LDEM 5, UKIP 16, GRN 5

Jeremy Corbyn is "worried" that the carrying of guns may reduce confidence in the police.
I am worried that criminals and terrorists carrying guns while the police are unarmed will reduce confidence in public safety.

The French police carry weapons.

It didn't prevent the recent terrorist actions in Paris.

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Not advocating a that the police are not allowed necessary weapons, but don't wish to see the unnecessary flaunting of weaponry, nor gun ho killings on the street.

From memory, America with all its guns and armed police have a higher percent of "murder" than the Europe.

From: Steve Baker, MP, Co-Chairman of Conservatives for Britain:

Apparently, we are only 15 MPs short to get 50% of tory MPs in favour of a BREXIT in a free vote.

Loads of Tory MPs think, that what and how DC is negotiating for with the EU is just basically inadequate.

Betfair: "At the moment, "staying in the EU is 1.57" with "leaving the EU at 2.72."

The betting doesn't match the polls. The polls are generally saying that it is pretty even. A more accurate view won't appear until the result of negotiations is settled and the two sides start campaigning ahead of the referendum. The don't know camp is huge at the moment amounting to 37% in some polls. I think we will vote to stay in due to fear.

It doesn't matter what the vote amongst the MPs is. The result of the referendum is the deciding factor.

Oddschecker has stay well in the lead across most bookmakers

Leave (13/8)
Stay (4/7)

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/referendum-on-eu-membership-result

If you want a sensible appraisal of Heathroad rather than huff and puff.

Vital Heathrow expansion must not be held up by craven politics
Will Hutton
Will Hutton

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And if you want a sensible and serious aprraisal of Eu in or out:


John Major's. (from Andrew Marr's show.)

One of the most sensible PM for 30years/



http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06tgy25/the-andrew-marr-show-20122015

what an interesting interview
i felt that JM spoke far better now than he ever did as PM

whats the difference between edwina currie and margaret thatcher?
One f****d miners the other f****d majors

Talking sensibly....people seem to be worried about how far are the airports....in the future : transport is bound to speed up...it will do...getting to and back catching a plane is going to be easier due to improved rail/road networks....jobs at heathrow :...it will take at least more than a decade or perhaps two to build an estuary airport !....heathrow would carry on until at least one runway was complete....people retire...newcomers employed at heathrow would have to agree that further..much further down the line ; they will be the other side of London....what's the big deal about change here ?...transport is speeding up....

If the concern is really about travel time to and from central londonistan, then it's hard to beat Gatwick, 30 minutes by train. Cheap as chips as well....Less than £20


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