Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Like Jacob Rees-Mogg, I live under the flight path at Heathrow and it doesnt bother me one iota. The airport was there before me and I have the convenience of it being only 15 mins away. Stansted is normally 1.25 mins and God knows what it would be to an estuary airport. Probably have to take a flight since the M25 is already a car park on most days. Good for some people maybe but not for anyone living to the west of London, apart from the jobs of the tens of thousands of local people employed at Heathrow.
The extensive studies have shown that Heathrow is the best. Just get on with it Cameron and phase out diesel engines since they are the real polluters, not the aircraft.

Opinium/Observer –

CON 38, LAB 30, LDEM 5, UKIP 16, GRN 5

Jeremy Corbyn is "worried" that the carrying of guns may reduce confidence in the police.
I am worried that criminals and terrorists carrying guns while the police are unarmed will reduce confidence in public safety.

The French police carry weapons.

It didn't prevent the recent terrorist actions in Paris.

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Not advocating a that the police are not allowed necessary weapons, but don't wish to see the unnecessary flaunting of weaponry, nor gun ho killings on the street.

From memory, America with all its guns and armed police have a higher percent of "murder" than the Europe.

From: Steve Baker, MP, Co-Chairman of Conservatives for Britain:

Apparently, we are only 15 MPs short to get 50% of tory MPs in favour of a BREXIT in a free vote.

Loads of Tory MPs think, that what and how DC is negotiating for with the EU is just basically inadequate.

Betfair: "At the moment, "staying in the EU is 1.57" with "leaving the EU at 2.72."

The betting doesn't match the polls. The polls are generally saying that it is pretty even. A more accurate view won't appear until the result of negotiations is settled and the two sides start campaigning ahead of the referendum. The don't know camp is huge at the moment amounting to 37% in some polls. I think we will vote to stay in due to fear.

It doesn't matter what the vote amongst the MPs is. The result of the referendum is the deciding factor.

Oddschecker has stay well in the lead across most bookmakers

Leave (13/8)
Stay (4/7)

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/referendum-on-eu-membership-result

If you want a sensible appraisal of Heathroad rather than huff and puff.

Vital Heathrow expansion must not be held up by craven politics
Will Hutton
Will Hutton

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And if you want a sensible and serious aprraisal of Eu in or out:


John Major's. (from Andrew Marr's show.)

One of the most sensible PM for 30years/



http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06tgy25/the-andrew-marr-show-20122015

what an interesting interview
i felt that JM spoke far better now than he ever did as PM

whats the difference between edwina currie and margaret thatcher?
One f****d miners the other f****d majors

Talking sensibly....people seem to be worried about how far are the airports....in the future : transport is bound to speed up...it will do...getting to and back catching a plane is going to be easier due to improved rail/road networks....jobs at heathrow :...it will take at least more than a decade or perhaps two to build an estuary airport !....heathrow would carry on until at least one runway was complete....people retire...newcomers employed at heathrow would have to agree that further..much further down the line ; they will be the other side of London....what's the big deal about change here ?...transport is speeding up....

If the concern is really about travel time to and from central londonistan, then it's hard to beat Gatwick, 30 minutes by train. Cheap as chips as well....Less than £20


http://www.gatwickexpress.com/

provided victoria(?) works for you

Circle, District and Victoria lines, plus overland.

It's not badly connected, the city and west end are very easy.

A typical me me me, up the ladder jack I'm alright response from the "Con" artist low life on here re Manston I see.. would we expect anything else of course.

Haystack

You missed out the SNP in your poll

Rees Mogg for the next Tory leader

"I'll vote to leave the EU, says former "Con"artist minister Liam Fox".. Why wait for the vote just P off now, in fact you may well get quite a few offers to assist, can I suggest somewhere nice an quite.. Syria's nice this time of the year I believe.

Manuel.

Major often spoke sense when he was PM.

The problem was that he wasn't from Eton, the Masonic Hall, or the right Club and that stuck in the throat of many of the Cons Party old leadership.

The party at his time was as split then as it is now.

The problems of labour have some similarity and much of their problems are due to those who think they should be in power, but were rejected by the party membership.

Interesting to watch!

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Nice an quite.... quite. Each man will have his vote, even former tory ministers have that privilege. You can be sure his wont be a "postal vote" that the left like so much.