hilary
- 31 Dec 2003 13:00
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chocolat
- 06 Nov 2006 01:55
- 6655 of 11056
Thanks Mels. Things change from one day to the next at the moment.
I really am rubbish. I meant falling resistance thingie in my previous post. And 40s, not 60s. Blimey I'll get there in the end.
Gone back to some rising lines I was using in the summer. I can see Hils's 1.8850 if cable does decide to bumble on down (ref the lowest supporty thing) and if it hangs about long enough (MPC maybe) then cable won't breach what I'm now hoping is support (the upper sloping down jobbie). Although I'd much prefer it to carry on up now :)
And just like a girlie, I haven't decided yet :)
Seymour Clearly
- 06 Nov 2006 08:13
- 6656 of 11056
Still short here :-)
hilary
- 06 Nov 2006 08:18
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Mel,
You've put a lot of effort into those posts - thanks. I do have a couple of opinions about them, but it's a bit early in the morning and I can't really think of a way of putting into words those thoughts.
Choccie,
Just caught the tail end of something being wrong with your mum. Sorry to hear that and hope everything's OK.
Bosley,
I've never read any books either on trading or on forex, nor do I intend to. I feel now that it would serve simply to confuse me. The only two remotely related books that I've read have been The Zulu Principle (fantastic - I read it just at the end of the bull market in Y2K and subsequently shorted every overvalued pile of trash in sight) and Where are the Customer's Yachts (serves to make you understand exactly how rigged the whole thing is). I was fortunate when I started FX trading in that a friend introduced me at a football match to the head of FX for a large US investment bank. He pointed me in the right direction and I just went from there. There's nothing that he told me that hasn't already been said many times on this thread.
Fwiw, I'm still short cable and staying that way for the time being.
foale
- 06 Nov 2006 08:34
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FXCM cable quotes mine showing 2-3 pips...
usually 5 isnt it?
Not complaining..but is it right
bosley
- 06 Nov 2006 10:55
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hilary, thanks for replying. i'll put them on my list.
btw, does anyone know what happened to the bookstore link moneyam used to have at the top of the page?
foale
- 06 Nov 2006 12:15
- 6660 of 11056
Cable short term direction becomng a coin toss atm..
hilary
- 06 Nov 2006 14:34
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Time to tighten stops, imo. Looks to be gathering some support on the faster charts, so the worry is that it could spill over into the slower charts.
hilary
- 06 Nov 2006 14:48
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Bosley,
Re the books, The Zulu Principle is specifically about a method of putting a value on stocks according to their growth prospects. It goes on a lot about PEGs (which aren't just for hanging washing). It isn't about trading or charting as such. It has since been superceded by a title called Beyond the Zulu Principle which considers valuations of the tech stocks which weren't in existance when the original book was written. If you trade or invest longer term in small cap stocks it's an essential read imo.
I can't recommend Where are the Customer's Yachts, I'm afraid, as it's sole function was to make me even more cynical and sarcastic than I already was. Similarly, I started to read many moons ago a book called The Madness of Fools and something else (sorry, I never can remember the proper title) which examined every bubble since Adam and how the herd mentality and greed suckered Joe Public into those bubbles. It's an investment classic which, I believe, some banks issue to new recruits and instruct them to digest before they let them loose with any money. I found it a bit tiresome and never finished it.
If you're interested in FX books, there are 2 that I am aware of although I've not read them and obviously can't recommend them.
One is called Bird Watching in Lion Country by Dirk somebody or other. The other book is by Kathy Lien who writes the DailyFX articles although I don't know the title of the book I'm afraid. You can probably find it on the DailyFX website or through Google.
edit: The book that I thought was called The Madness of Fools .... is actually called Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. I said that I couldn't remember the title.
Melnibone
- 06 Nov 2006 15:39
- 6663 of 11056
Fed's Moskow is talking up the US economy and hinting at possible
rate rises down the line. Not sure what you can believe close to
an election, but here's the article.
Link to MarketWatch article
He repeated his belief that the risk of inflation remaining too high is greater
than the risk of growth being too low.
He said he supported the FOMC statement that additional firming of monetary
policy may be needed to bring inflation down, but said the decision will depend on
how the incoming data affect the outlook.
Seymour Clearly
- 06 Nov 2006 16:13
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Stops already tightened Hils,thanks.
Melnibone
- 06 Nov 2006 18:30
- 6665 of 11056
Showing some of the stuff here that I've sent to my daughter on the nightly PDF e-mail. Don't forget that I'm writing this to someone who is just starting out, so I'm not talking down to anyone here with some of the simplistic stuff I'm putting in.
So please don't anyone take offense, none is intended.
I'll be glad when she's had this interview, so that I can quit this. Bleedin' daughters,
they can twist dads round there little fingers, can't they. :-)





mg
- 07 Nov 2006 07:03
- 6666 of 11056
Couldn't resist posting a Damien number :)
Seymour Clearly
- 07 Nov 2006 07:15
- 6667 of 11056
Morning folks, stopped out of my short last night for a total of zero.... Powder is still dry though :-)
hilary
- 07 Nov 2006 07:42
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I thought that MM was the only horny little devil around these parts, meggers. We established that a few weeks ago.
:o)
Mel,
I've still got some thoughts re your charts that I intend to put into words. It's just a case of getting round to it. In the meantime, I don't know if you've seen
this link which might help with some of your research.
chocolat
- 07 Nov 2006 08:40
- 6669 of 11056
Somebody once thoughtfully bought me Prechter's Elliott Wave Principle - I got about as far with that as I did with Hawking's History of Time - and very brief it was too :S We used to have stacks of Asterix books in the bathroom when the boys were little and they've appeared again by stealth. They're a great read for those inbetween data spells, bos. ;)
Most folk seem to be reading the same stuff, drawing the same conclusions, and putting on the same positions.
We can't all be right, can we?
It's not as simple as that Mels. At the end of the day (oh don't you just love cliches) the news fits the charts. We are dealing here with a highly liquid instrument and it's a given that anyone trading currency pairs must have an understanding of the fundamentals that move them. The effect can be radical depending on which side of the water the news flows. But that's it - the rest is up to us. There's an awful lot of scope in how we interpolate technical analysis. Me, I'm fairly useless with numbers and I prefer a visual picture. And don't go thinking you needn't carry on rambling on here once your daughter is through her interview :P
Well I'm radically spammed up with longs down to 1.8955.
Manufacturers are urging the Bank of England to keep interest rates on hold this week despite widespread expectations in the City of a quarter-point rise to 5% - could be a fly in the oinkment ;)
And thanks, Hils. Everything's ok inasmuch as my mother has had 4 trips to the theatre in the last 10 days - 4 more than she's had in the last year ;)
Seymour Clearly
- 07 Nov 2006 09:25
- 6671 of 11056
Mel, really enjoying your posts. As Choccy says, we're expecting this analysis to continue though ;-)
FWIW, my money is on UK interest rates staying unchanged on Thursday. What's the likely scenario? A UK rate rise is priced in and expected (possibly!). A 0.5% rise is unlikely given the manufacturer's pleas to leave them unchanged. So, if I were long the dollar (short cable), a 0.25% rise shouldn't have any effect, but no change would be dollar positive and so help my short position. The only fly in the rather sticky ointment is the US elections and I haven't any take on that because I don't really understand it.
Just the ramblings of an apprentice, and quite happy for this in depth analysis to be torn to pieces. Oh, and having a good day so far on cable.
chocolat
- 07 Nov 2006 09:27
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Yes Dezzer :o)
foale
- 07 Nov 2006 10:09
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well done on going against thehaerd choccie...
I have been flat most of the time..so at least never got caught out...
Not so sure where we are headed now though...
hilary
- 07 Nov 2006 11:53
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Mel,
I've been promising to comment on your observations, so here goes.
Firstly, yes I agree that there is a correlation between the USD and both gold and oil. But I would argue that the correlation is achieved more likely through the effect that minerals have on the so called commodity currencies (Aussie, Kiwi, Loonie and Rand) rather than on the USD specifically. What I'm trying to say is that if oil goes up, then you would also expect the Loonie to rise and that will more than likely result in a weakening of the USD. The USD is not specifically driven by oil though. The US is, however, a big importer of oil and there are times when oil will specifically affect the US, typically during the driving season and during the winter months when heating costs in the colder parts of the US come to the fore.
Similarly, the carry trade can and will affect bond prices. If interest rates are high in one specific country, then punters will typically borrow money in a country with low interest rates, convert it into the currency with a higher rate and invest it in fixed income securities (bonds) in that country. It's not a scenario which is unique to the USD though.
I believe, therefore, that neither bonds nor oil exclusively dictate the value of the USD.
As has been said many times on this thread, the news is merely a catalyst for price action which is already in the chart. There will be times when it is convenient to focus on oil as a currency driver, but there will be other times when it is more convenient to focus on inflation or budget deficits or the worth of the carry trade or political stability or anything whatsoever that will fit the picture.
I hope that makes sense and also hope that it might help your daughter in a small way.