Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

If the UK is so unattractive to foreigners why have we got thousands upon thousands of them still moving here every month ?

The NHS has been under funded and mis managed for years and has sod all to do with Brexit. Most of the foreign workers in the NHS excluding cleaners and other low paid jobs are not even from the EU.

We're leaving the EU Fred whether you like it or not so get over it.

Fred
You seem to miss the point I am not the one quoting things as fact, you are.

If I understood your last sentence I might respond but again it sounds like a sweeping generalisation unsupported by fact.

Martini.

In your opinion.

This is a long article, but sums the positions on brexit up nicely.



Brexit Triggered…And Why Britain Should Succeed In The Negotiations



By Alasdair Macleod -

March 30, 2017



http://www.silver-phoenix500.com/article/brexit-triggered%E2%80%A6and-why-britain-should-succeed-negotiations

Fred
Now you are stating the blinding obvious. Of course what I think about your input is my opinion. Sigh

That site can be a bit iffy, if anyone has problems, I can post the whole article.

My recent 5 week experience of the NHS when a relative was in hospital for just over five weeks was 1 French nurse , 1 East European nurse , maybe half a dozen Asian nurses and the rest of the nursing staff dealing with my relative were from the UK.

The consultant was from the UK and the Registrar was of an Asian origin but could have been born in the UK.

Cleaning staff I encountered were overwhelmingly from Eastern Europe as were the two guys who brought the tea round.

Limited example but I'm sure the NHS will be no worse off after Brexit than it was before and there will be more money available to train our own home grown nurses and doctors.

I can see there being a a shortage of prostitutes and drug dealers though.

Dil
I had not considered that possibility! I am beginning to reconsider my support for Brexit.

I know many British born workers, who would be willing to do these jobs but
haven't been able to, due to the fact that since the enlargement of the EU in
2004 a majority of employment agencies have advertise job vacancies directly
abroad, to the detriment of British workers..

Dil and Martini.

Do you have need of either?

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Freda

are you any of them?

note - I am sure some of the gangs will be looking for other places on the EU instead of the NHS

Fred
There you go again stating the bleeding obvious.

Not sure whether that is a yes or a no.

if he's bleeding, he should go to A&E and clog that up unnecessarily

I am sick and tired of the air time given to the Sturgeon woman. I'm sure the majority of the people in Scotland feel the same. She is like a toothache that won't go away. I flick channels every time I see her vexed face.
TM should just tell her no and sit down like Ruth Davidson did. The more she appeases the SNP, the more they want.

I'd drive her nuts personally iturama , she must be suffering from something surely . May must know she isn't going to go away , she has to have a demon plan for her .

re - NHS

Have you been for a blood test recently?

Not much better than 15 years ago, where I took a 98 years old woman, and an Australian male nurse needed 5 goes before could get it right. the poor old lady got a black and blue arm the next day.

Last week a 72 years old lady told me much the same case, but this time was a foreign nurse and pricked her and then she reckons move the needle around, by night she could not move the arm plus black and blue, was alright 2 days later.

I can not understand how a qualified nurse can not do the job properly

You should have shown her how to do it.

Freda" wants to feel a small prick