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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

jimmy b - 31 Dec 2015 12:27 - 66634 of 81564

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ....

Fred1new - 31 Dec 2015 15:21 - 66635 of 81564

I am trying to get some information on ETFs

I want to know are there ftse 350 indices ETFS?

If so are they ISA allowed?

Is there a list of such and hopefully with indication of index they dublicate.

I know way back I had a gold one in an ISA.

But looking for Building, Household and construction related ones.

ExecLine - 31 Dec 2015 15:49 - 66636 of 81564

Fred

You might find the following of some interest:

From: http://europe.etf.com/europe/sections/features-a-news/9763-how-to-play-the-uk-housing-market.html?fullart=1&start=2

How To Play the UK Housing Market
By Rachael Revesz
30 April, 2014

The UK’s booming housing sector is attracting investors from far and wide, boosting the UK’s economic rally.

Phenomenal growth in London, fuelled by overseas buyers, has had a knock-on effect around the country and sent homebuilder stocks like Barratt Developments, Bellway and Taylor Wimpey soaring last year.

However, housing is a cyclical sector, meaning it only does well when the economy is looking healthy. And according to a Bank of America Merrill Lynch Global Research report published today, the UK has reported robust GDP growth of 3.1 percent over the last four quarters.

But there is no guarantee how long this will last. The Bank of England is stress testing the UK’s largest lenders to make sure they can cope with a crash in house prices, reflecting fears that the market has become overheated. According to news reports, the Prudential Regulation Authority expects a 35 percent slump in prices to be triggered once interest rates rise from their current level at 0.5 percent.

Worries about bubbles in the market – tech stocks, bonds, house prices – are nothing new, but rising prices and a consequent slump are always a possibility. The question is, how do you get sector-specific exposure while the going is good but still maintain liquidity?

Don’t confuse commercial and residential property

Unlike the U.S., Europe has a distinct lack of ETFs that track residential property or European homebuilders. Rather, European ETFs track companies like Land Securities Group and British Land that build offices and commercial centres, often in London.

Investors should not get confused by the different sectors with the four property-related ETFs on the London Stock Exchange: three from iShares which cover UK, European and developed market property, and a European real estate fund from Amundi.

The iShares UK Property UCITS ETF physically tracks the FTSE EPRA/NAREIT index of 30 listed real estate companies and real estate investment trusts. It might not be a play on UK housing, but prices for offices and shopping centres in London are rising too and this ETF has returned 22 percent over the past 12 months.

For ETFs that invest in global property, State Street, iShares, HSBC and db X-trackers all offer a vehicle.

Why are there no UK homebuilders ETFs?

But when it comes to tracking UK house builders, no ETFs have been launched yet for European investors. There are fewer listed property companies in the UK, compared to the U.S, and ETFs are required to be diversified.

The proportion of home owners is also quite high in the UK, explained Gordon Rose, fund analyst at Morningstar, and he questioned whether homeowners would then want to invest in a homebuilders ETF.

“It’s a small sector compared to other European markets,” he said. “Products like that are difficult to market. But as European ETFs develop and become less fragmented and more liquid, I can imagine maybe one day they will launch a homebuilder ETF.”

The FTSE ICB Home Construction Index contains various UK-listed homebuilder names, but has few assets tracking it and no ETFs.

Investors that wish to take a view on UK housing through house builder names can still do so, using this index, according to Brandon Mitchell, who works in ETF sales and research at advisory and broker firm Peel Hunt. The list of stock in this index are quite manageable, allowing investors to create a tradable basket with a modest amount of money, he said.

Sector specific exposure

Taking a punt on a main UK equity index could be a way to get more sector specific exposure. There are a small handful of homebuilders in the FTSE 250, and the iShares FTSE 250 UCITS ETF has returned 16 percent over the last year and 0.19 percent year to date. Similarly, there are a modest nine homebuilders in the FTSE All Share, and the SPDR FTSE UK All Share UCITS ETF has delivered 12 percent over the past year.

“You could invest in one of these indices as when the economy goes up, the housing market goes up – but the problem is by investing in something like the FTSE 100, a lot of the revenue is derived from multinational companies who might not be a play on UK house prices,” said Rose. “If you really want to have pure UK investment you would have to look at small and mid-cap UK equities.”

Buyer beware - homebuilders have a nationwide focus, but it is prices in London that are rising the fastest. In fact, prices in prime central London have risen around 60 percent since pre-credit crisis, according to asset manager London Central Portfolio limited, compared to the rest of the country’s house price growth of about 7 percent over the same timeframe.

Non-ETF options

For investors wanting to consider open-ended mutual funds in property, London Central Portfolio argues that a package of government-backed tax incentives and residential property funds in central London tick “all investment boxes”. Investing in the buy-to-let domain is for the smart saver.

But open-ended funds could suspend redemptions when investors are flooding out of the fund in a downward market – as happened with New Star’s UK Property Trust – creating the so-called liquidity trap.

Not many people can afford to pay for bricks and mortar, but that doesn't mean the property market is out of bounds. Just be sure you fully understand the fund you are buying into.

ExecLine - 31 Dec 2015 16:41 - 66637 of 81564

Here's something to make you all a lot of money when the markets re-open after the break:

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ExecLine - 31 Dec 2015 17:02 - 66638 of 81564

But first, remember the Golden Rule, "If it looks too good to be true - then it generally is."

And then do check out the 'Scam Review on Ultimate4Trading' at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BZ3I-H9pAA

Fred1new - 31 Dec 2015 17:15 - 66639 of 81564

Exec,

Thank you.

I will have a look am..

Just recovering from a mastermind showing me how to use a new mobile phone.


His old one!
8-(



cynic - 31 Dec 2015 17:25 - 66640 of 81564

flooding
i have a feeling that the c+p post a page or so back forgot to mention such things as housing permissions granted for flood plain, sewers being overloaded by all the extra housing effluent being routed through existing systems, all the additional housing developments with their impermeable infrastructure elements removing valuable soak-away ...... and i'm sure there's much more of a similar vein

Fred1new - 01 Jan 2016 09:59 - 66641 of 81564

Hopefully, a happy new year to all.

But I hope the flies don't get in the ointment!


cynic - 01 Jan 2016 10:16 - 66642 of 81564

i confess i do not look forward to 2016 with much confidence at all

Fred1new - 01 Jan 2016 10:34 - 66643 of 81564

That is a change!


8-)


Try hope!

jimmy b - 01 Jan 2016 12:12 - 66644 of 81564

I have been looking in to Ultimate4trading following Execs post and have found mixed reviews .

http://forexbonus100.com/news/ultimate4Trading-review/

ExecLine - 01 Jan 2016 14:08 - 66645 of 81564

The Vipurkives Lever Axe in action:

cynic - 01 Jan 2016 15:00 - 66646 of 81564

fred - i'm afraid i see little other than gloom for 2016 on all fronts to a greater or lesser extent ..... events may prove otherwise, not least because there are always loads of unknowns

MaxK - 01 Jan 2016 15:04 - 66647 of 81564

Good advert for that axe EL, until he hits a few knots in the wood.

cynic - 01 Jan 2016 15:07 - 66648 of 81564

and i wonder how easy or hard it is to split hardwood logs - eg beech or hawthorn and the like, let alone sweet chestnut that does not have straight grain

Fred1new - 01 Jan 2016 16:25 - 66649 of 81564

Concentrate on the knowns and you may have a chance.


Read Paul Mason's:

Postcapitalism

A Guide to Our Future


It may make you wonder!

cynic - 01 Jan 2016 16:40 - 66650 of 81564

so are you optimistic for 2016?

Fred1new - 01 Jan 2016 17:18 - 66651 of 81564

Not enough to go on yet.

But, already I feel I am suffering from information overload.

-===-=-===

Reality says I did reasonably well last year but I am thinking of placing tightish stop losses on all my portfolios.

Unless, I get stopped out first!

cynic - 01 Jan 2016 17:24 - 66652 of 81564

stop-losses always worry me, especially with indices, as spikes can easily crucify

Stan - 01 Jan 2016 22:45 - 66653 of 81564

Natalie Cole snuffs it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35210812
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