Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Fred1new
- 01 Feb 2009 11:14
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Savad,
In summary, Israel does not care whether the BBC reports the facts or not. For the reasons mentioned above, Israel is not trying to court the favour of world opinion; this was a cause lost several centuries back. To put it bluntly, the fact that Israel exists as a highly successful nation state is two fingers up at you, at the BBC and at the rest of the world.
I was going to give a detailed response to the whole of your letter, but refrain from doing so, but will restrict it to this passage towards its end.
I think it illustrates the attitude, which a large percentage of the world perceives as Israels present stance. To me, it portrays an arrogance, which doesnt win favours.
I dont think that the Israel or the Israeli people are universally despised; I dont think that there is a universal wish for the demise of Israel or the Israeli people, but I do think that there is anger and despair at the actions instigated in the name of the Israel, by the present and recent past governments.
The people who are angry are not considering the religion or the culture of the Israelis, but the actions of Israel as an entity.
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Fred1new
- 01 Feb 2009 11:22
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Ps. The same attitude was held by many of the recent American Administration and Bush and his cohorts. The American people were not disliked as group, but the actions taken in the name of their country were.
Gausie
- 01 Feb 2009 12:52
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They ought to care - they just fail to plan for the future. After all, where will Hamas launch their attacks from when they run out of human shields? Such a waste.
Gausie
- 01 Feb 2009 12:57
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ps - Hamas would like to thank supporters of the DEC for their kind donations that will help to rebuild Gaza. As you can see, the money is already being invested "wisely".
Gausie
- 01 Feb 2009 13:08
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Fred
I'm sure you think that today's rocket attacks from Gaza are a perfectly reasonable and justifiable cry for help from a people to whom nobody is listening, and that any military response by Israel will be shocking, uncalled for, disproportionate and unexpected.
So let me get this in first: Fred - you're a bleeding heart gullible fool. Get a grip.
Count - same applies.
G
Fred1new
- 01 Feb 2009 13:11
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Charts, I am glad you will not be negotiating for Israel.
If because you have physical might you can kill or murder with impunity I think you are wrong.
Gausie
- 01 Feb 2009 13:12
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Fred - go poke a tiger with a sharp stick. Cynic will take up your case with London Zoo when you unexpectedly and disproportionately get mauled to death.
cynic
- 01 Feb 2009 14:30
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cynic will form his own view of this bloody and largely mindless conflict, caring not whether it is deemed to be patronising one side or another
Gausie
- 01 Feb 2009 14:32
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oh, I doubt it.
Cynic appears to have a mind of concrete - thoroughly mixed and permanently set.
Fred1new
- 01 Feb 2009 18:23
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And what good will it do?
At how will it enable any future peace initiatives?
If the toll of life from the "disproportionate", how many further generations will have distorted views and attempt to wreak revenge?
The response, you appearing to be suggesting, is as primitive as the action of the people firing the rockets.
Both sides probably of the same genetic base.
Stupid.
Fred1new
- 01 Feb 2009 20:19
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Once again, I think Charts is looking in the mirror.
cynic
- 01 Feb 2009 21:18
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gausie ... you may (or may not) know plenty about plenty, but about me you know bugger all