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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 15:11 - 668 of 1034

How many banksters end up in jail (or even make it as far as - the dock)





So - How high & how well organised ?
(A deep, deep rabbit hole :o)

gazkaz - 14 Aug 2013 15:32 - 669 of 1034

Wonder - what is driving the market higher


But
- let put it in a...concise nutshell in a simple grapic



And so in another nutshell....this time in words

So, thanks to the US Treasury, we know that between January 2009 and April 2013,
- on days in which the Fed POMO was more than $5 billion,
- the stock market............ rose a total of 570 points (up 54%)
- on days in which the POMO was less than $5 billion
- the cumulative stock market ............gain was "only" 141 points (up 15%)

and when there was no POMO ??

- the S&P gained... minus 51 points (Minus 2%)









gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 09:11 - 670 of 1034

A view of gold demand in Dubai

"We have 90 days order logbook.
So..... we cannot fill the demand we have at this stage"


gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 09:21 - 671 of 1034

Further to my earler post that JPM had bought up virtually all comex July deliveries, for delivery...to it's own house account.
(& was beginning grabbing the August deliveries.....in the same manner)

Has JPM, flooded with demands for physical,
- finally thrown in the towel, and seeing that the deluge in delivery requests is "unrelenting",
- had no choice but to turn to...... the one place it has left to replenish its stocks:
- the market?

The firm's House accounts just saw
- the largest Stop (i.e. taking delivery) since December of 2012,
- amounting to over 210K oz.

gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 10:52 - 672 of 1034

My take on 2 charts
- for every dollar lent to the punters by the banks
- by the time it has been run around the fractional reserve system it creates....
- $10 dollars into the ponzi money supply game

Conversely for every dollar the punters ...repay
- it takes $10 - out - the ponzi game
- for every dollar written off in bankruptcy...it to takes $10 out the ponzi game

So what would we see in this converse scenario
- less money in the ponzi
- so not much less movement (velocity) of what money - is left...in the game

Voila !!






When - money - is no longer going into a ponzi game....a ponzi starts to fail
- when money is ....also....being taken out the ponzi
- it collapses ...quicker

But if you can actually - just "print" more money
- to put in..... to the ponzi scheme
- the illusion continues


voila







And those - step jumps higher....in the moey supply...since 2008
- yep the ponzi printing of.....QE I, II & III


But is it....working ?



Check out the grey shaded verticle lines - in the - TOP chart
- they indicate US recessions
-money velocity plunges = recessions

Check out where the blue line ends on the right....and.... the direction....it is
- still........ heading in


In conclusion.....so far-

- all the ponzi printing in the - bottom chart - since 2008
- has not fed into the economy & into increasing the velocity of money
- in fact...the exact reverse....velocity is "plunging"
- and in just a velocity "fall" you get a recession per the- top chart - grey areas
- So - what do you get....when it plunges.

- heading for 1930's.....MK II ????


So where is all the printed ponzi money going ?

Well Meyer Rothkiddy....created wars....and funded both/all sides....got the governments into huge debts....printed them the money....and charged them... interest.

Move on a century or so.......the military indusrial complex....is still sucking at the taxpayers teat....with the cost + interest of it's military adventures
- but the game has moved on....and governments now also
- run up huge borrowings... on banking encouraged...debt funded....interest chargeable (taxpayer liability)
- welfare programmes
- and healthcare programmes etc

So the FEDy prints up the fiat out of thin air
- runs it round the primary dealer 3 card monty
- collects the T-Bonds back off the government in return
- and creams the taxpayer for the bond interest
- plus ......uses the printing to buy.....
- Mortgage backed security - real tangible assets
- and creams the mortgage holders for....the mortgage interest.

And in standard - rinse ad repeat fashion
- as you can see the bottom chart looks like velocity of money plunging
- suggests 1930's MK II depression territory

Then the central bankers and friends - pick up all the economic depression distressed assets at.....

Firesale - pennies on the dollar

- who bought up all the Greek - Nationalised State Assets....in their fire sale ?

Who ended up owning - the maggie gifts - of privatatising.....water, electricity, the railways etc etc
- The Bankster owned international conglomerates

In the end,
A simple game of rinse and repeat when it comes down to it
- just - hidden by the complexites of the smoke and mirrors of..... complex financial & economic....jargon


JFK tried to..... cut out the middleman central bankers... above game
- shame that "just that - one crazy guy :o)"
- stopped him.


-



gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 13:09 - 673 of 1034

Marc Faber - calls it at - only - a 20% (plus maybe more) fall in stocks this autumn
(so not quite a '29 crash ....on into the 1930's experience....yet, by Faber)

Faber compared the current action in the stock market to...
- that in the late summer of 1987,
- and predicted that a similar massive stock market crash/panic is coming this fall.

“In 1987, we had a very powerful rally, but also earnings were no longer rising substantially, and the market became very overbought. The final rally into Aug. 25 occurred with a diminishing number of stocks hitting 52-week highs. In other words, the new-high list was contracting, and we have several breaks in different stocks.
- That’s exactly where we find ourselves...... this August.“

gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 13:15 - 674 of 1034

Mike maloney's opinion

Here he discusses - The Hidden Secrets of Money and .....the 7 Stages of Empire.
- It was the collapse of the currency in the Weimar Republic... that paved the way for the rise of fascism, and ......
- Mike tells us we are in.......... stage 6
- of the collapse of the U.S. empire,
(and that....we are at risk of repeating history)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maloney/oh-dear/hold-on-tight

gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 16:28 - 675 of 1034

Recall that
- registered gold is..... the gold held at the COMEX that is ....available for delivery
- while eligible gold ......is not “eligible” for delivery.

Just 3-1/2 years ago in early 2011,
- COMEX warehouses held more than .....11 million ounces of ....eligible gold,
(with JPM holding more than 3 million of these 11 million ounces.)

As of August 9, 2013, JPM’s..... "eligible gold"
- has fallen from.. 3+ million ounces.. to just 361,606 ounces.

Thus, it is safe to conclude
- that physical gold is being withdrawn from the COMEX warehouse
- due to a lack of trust in the global banking sector’s honesty and credibility
(As the "eligible" gold - is effectiely - punter gold...stored for safe keeping)

Moving along to registered gold
( the gold held at the COMEX that is available for delivery).

It is interesting to note that just since April,
- registered gold held at the COMEX depositories
- has collapsed from a total of 2,147,398 ounces
- to just 852,930 ounces.
That is a collapse of 60% of the registered gold inventory..... in less than 4 months!

To put this "tiny 853,000 oz comex gold - available - for delivery" - into perspective.

Data from Hong Kong gold exports reveal that China...... has imported
- an average of 200 metric tonnes of gold.... every month April, May, and June.
( 200 metric tonnes is equivalent to more than.... 6.4 million ounces... of gold).

So China has been importing.....6.4 Million oz ....per month
- and
- COMEX holds a total of just..... 852,930 ounces of registered gold
(available for delivery)........ at the current time.

Unlike the fiat fractional reserve ponzi
- in the gold fractional reserve ponzi.....you can't just quietly - print your way out - a run on physical bullion

- all you can do - is drive the price down....and pay out - in fiat paper.

gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 16:49 - 676 of 1034

On April 16,
- just hours...... after the smashing of the gold price.

This is an article from ......the Chinese state press agency CNTV
(China Network Television),

The writer describes how soon after Nixon closed the gold window in 1971 - and the price of gold sky rocketed to $800 an ounce
- - the Fed started to combat the price of gold ........up until today
- in order to maintain the dollar hegemony.
- Their main tactics being ;
- leasing gold and shorting it.

So
- The Chinese ......are fully aware of this game
- and know exactly how it's going to end.

http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/08/chinese-state-press-on-how-fed-has-been.html

Nice read on..... what everybody knows .....but what western governments.... and mainstream media
- refuse to say.

Adding the - Cynical Spin

(As - the article was locked, loaded and ready to go...just hours...after such an "unfoseen smash)

Did China actually cooperate.... with the Western central banks' smashing of the gold price in April
- on the understanding that China then could pick up sharply discounted gold...... unloaded by panicked Western investors.
- The Chinese government also may have chosen April 16
- to publicize Western gold price suppression .....to it's domestic audience
- so that its own people..... would not..... be panicked out of their own gold.

Well if so - Part B worked.. and then some !!

- Not only were the Chinese public - not panicked... into selling on the price crash
- the Chinese were only panicked - into... besieging gold shops... to get still more metal.






gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 21:32 - 677 of 1034

Keith Barron, who consults with major companies around the world

"The Fed and the ECB are desperately trying to hold the system together, but at the end of the day
- they are losing the ability to control the rapid loss of confidence that is taking hold.

Western central banks claim that there is a lot of physical gold available for purchase.
- That is pure propaganda and a lie.

I now have reason to believe that Asian central banks
- are requesting that their gold, some of which has been stored in the West,
- be sent to Asia.
This is what is causing the short covering rally in gold.
- The Asians know the Western gold system is very close to collapse
- and they want the physical gold in their possession.

This is what is happening behind the scenes.
- A very large part of the 1,300 tons of gold that was shipped out of the Bank of England, .....and gold that is being shipped out of the Fed as well,
- is going into the vaults in China and other parts of Asia.

There is a massive run on physical gold right now and this is creating a squeeze.

The bottom line is the Western fractional reserve gold system
- is now on the edge of collapse
and the Asians know it.

gazkaz - 15 Aug 2013 21:46 - 678 of 1034

Johnny Foreigner - public & private - having a dumpfest of US T-Bonds

The TIC data came in quite negative this morning show
- a net outflow of over 67 billion
- as both public and private foreigners
- were dumping US Treasuries in size during June.

Seems like a trend too... not just in T-Bonds
-but....in ...... all - US long term assets





And if Johnny foreiner is not only....no longer buying
- but now selling too

The FEDy has to pick up the ever increasing slack.....even more

gazkaz - 16 Aug 2013 01:04 - 679 of 1034

India Bans All Gold Coin Imports, & ...Increases Capital Controls

As well as the....total ban .....on the importation of gold coins and medallions
- In an effort to "moderate outflows" of Rupee, the Indian central bank slashed the amount of money families can send out of the country per year to $75k... from $200k
- and limited overseas investment to 100% of net worth ..down from 400%.
"We will leave no stone unturned" to control the current account deficit and stabilize the rupee, the finance minister warned.

- thats on top of the recent hike in gold import tax to..10% (from the recent increase to 8%)
- and the requirement to retain 20% of gold imports....for re-export

gazkaz - 16 Aug 2013 01:37 - 680 of 1034

10yr T-Bonds - break 2-75%
(thats up around 60% in a month or so)

Rising interest rates means...
- 1% higher rates on 17 Trillion debt....means more treasury income...gets swallowed up paying the higher interest
- equals escalating....budget deficit (more cuts/higher taxes)
- higher interest rate = problem re .....the Banksters lose income/have to pay out on.....interest rate swap derivatives
(from memory of the 1.3 Quadrillion derivatives market.....60% are interest rate swaps !!)
- higher interest rates ....all fixed bond capital values fall
- and the Banks - including the.... Central banks....predominantly hold .....fixed rate bonds

I would imagine on a "mark to market" basis.....the fall in capital values of US T-Bonds (as a result of higher interest rates)
- has probably wiped out... the tiny capital of the FEDY... 4/5 x over
- equals..... on a mark to market basis.....even the central bank....is insolvent.

Saturn6 - 16 Aug 2013 08:29 - 681 of 1034

Nice work Gaz - Esp the talk on the Gold/Silver Ratio [GSR] in the SGT link with Maloney.

Looking at the GSR we see the Bearish 'Wedge' that forewarned of a drop has again been pertinent...

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And remember the $BPGDM where I hi-lited the bottom at zero and the 'Triple Bottom' that formed and the 'breakout' along with the confirmation on price and GDX/GLD ratio 'Wedges' and thrust that ensued pushing miners from zero % on PnF buy signals to a tad over 50% currently. Which was one of the catalysts to get long the miners at the end of June, and which has thus far given us a 30% gain...

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Saturn6 - 16 Aug 2013 08:45 - 682 of 1034

Also remember the rotation frm stocks to miners and metals I urged at that time too...

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Saturn6 - 16 Aug 2013 08:58 - 683 of 1034

Talking of the lie foisted upon us from an early age and propounded by all the so called 'experts' in the field of evoolution, as we were the other day I thought it appropriate to forward a link I received where Dawkins sort of ties himself up in knots over nothing...

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http://ppsimmons.blogspot.ca/2013/08/wow-richard-dawkins-knows-nothing-about.html

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S.

gazkaz - 16 Aug 2013 09:59 - 684 of 1034

sahara
- Einstein (allegedy the greatest mathematician) and Max Planc (allegedly the greatest particle physicist) both said in paraphrase
- it would not suprise them if it was discovered one day that reality...was created by conciousnous.
- the latest string/membrane theory - is that eveything is just energy & vibration.
- the physics "measurement problem" is that - nothing exists until it is..viewed or measured.
- in my perspective it is a given that if an atoms nucleus was the size of a kids marble...the nearest electron would be - 2 miles away.
- hence physical matter is 99.99999999999999 nothing
- and that 99.99....nothing....only makes up only 14% of the cosmos
- the other 86% of the cosmos is dark energy & dark matter.....of which they don't know what it is made of....and can't measure.
- so at least there is a definite...0-00000000000001% ...something

Got this in my many - to wander rounds - at some point

http://www.crystalinks.com/fabricofthecosmos.html

Somehow I think my brain.... will hurt a little afterwards :o)

gazkaz - 16 Aug 2013 10:08 - 685 of 1034

Interesting 5/15/30 year "seasonality" overlays in the price of gold





The "you are here" reminds me of the old tourist maps in city centres, where you pressed the button........and a light illuminated on the map with "you are here"
- happy days
(mind you sat navs on phones in your pocket are easier to find....than in the old days wandering around....trying to just find the city centre tourist map itself ..so you could then press...the button)

Saturn6 - 16 Aug 2013 10:17 - 686 of 1034

Yes - I am fascinated with conciousness evoked reality. I will try and get around the rights restrictions in my area preventing veiwing of the video you posted.

I have tried in the past to use my conciousness to bend space to my will, but was unsuccesful. The only way I could get what I wanted was to devise a strategy and work towards it.

Also if I were to be unconcious for a time then my reality would cease to exist whereas when I were to regain my conciousness my reality had continued without me conciously knowing.

Eerie stuff.

S.

gazkaz - 16 Aug 2013 15:38 - 687 of 1034

Sahara - this ressonated with me when i watched it earlier today....7 mins

Effectively....we are all in this same reality room - we're just perceiving different channels
- most are tuned in to the.. 3 main channels
- channel 7 (the denial channel) or,
- channel 13 (The ignorance is bliss channel)
- Sky Sports

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZo1sXsC-68
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