Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Fred1new
- 26 Apr 2014 23:35
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Manuel,
"live by the sword and die by the sword seems apposite for both sides"
This would be suggestive to me of the nihilistic philosophy that both you and the Hazy One hold to.
C'est ta vie!
cynic
- 27 Apr 2014 07:36
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so what's your brilliant solution then?
Fred1new
- 27 Apr 2014 09:26
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Send you and Hazy One as hostages.
One to each side.
Or as there are more sides, perhaps, parcelled up as a piece for each faction!
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cynic
- 27 Apr 2014 17:13
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ah yes, a brilliant and useful and sensible suggestion; just as one would expect
if you feel a little squeamish about "live by the sword and die by the sword", how about a simple "plague on both your houses"?
Fred1new
- 27 Apr 2014 20:28
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With your obvious magnificent intellect you have no need of printable suggestions.
cynic
- 27 Apr 2014 23:07
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a typical non-answer from fred who has never yet answered a question
that was why I re-christened him fossy, for it is most apposite (to use this week's word)
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2014 08:49
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Manuel.
Stop whining on!
I know you are suffering from increasing memory loss, which is sometimes a convenience for you, but you can read back to what I have previously posted!
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But, as one vulture said to another at a road kill.
"What a mess"!
The other replied : "Yes, but it is a meal to me".
(Look at who is gaining from maintaining the present political situation between Israel and Palestine.)
cynic
- 28 Apr 2014 10:13
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quite so ...... there' an awful lot of outsiders who are only too happy to ensure that unrest in the region continues
nevertheless, the general public from both sides are apathetic at best about finding peace, so the bloodshed will continue
at least a plague on both houses would be non-discriminatory, and if sufficiently virulent, would be singularly effective
Fred1new
- 28 Apr 2014 10:27
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It would depend of the susceptibility and reasons for the susceptibilities of the groups concerned!
cynic
- 28 Apr 2014 10:29
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sewer-rat fleas are said to be excellent carriers of a myriad of truly nasty diseases
Haystack
- 28 Apr 2014 10:31
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Kerry is a bit late. It happened quite a time ago
https://news.yahoo.com/kerry-warns-israeli-apartheid-231200692--politics.html
If there’s no two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict soon, Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state,” Secretary of State John Kerry told a room of influential world leaders in a closed-door meeting Friday.
Senior American officials have rarely, if ever, used the term "apartheid" in reference to Israel, and President Obama has previously rejected the idea that the word should apply to Jewish State. Kerry's use of the loaded term is already rankling Jewish leaders in America—and almost certain to Israeli leaders abroad.
It wasn't the only controversial comment on the Middle East that Kerry made during his remarks to the Trilateral Commission, a recording of which was obtained by The Daily Beast. Kerry also repeated his warning that a failure of Middle East peace talks could lead to a resumption of Palestinian violence against Israeli citizens. He suggested that a change in either the Israeli or Palestinian leadership could make achieving a peace deal more feasible. He lashed out against Israeli settlement-building. And Kerry said that both Israeli and Palestinian leaders share the blame for the current impasse in the talks.
Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”
“A two-state solution will be clearly underscored as the only real alternative. Because a unitary state winds up either being an apartheid state with second class citizens—or it ends up being a state that destroys the capacity of Israel to be a Jewish state,” Kerry told the group of senior officials and experts from the U.S., Western Europe, Russia, and Japan. “Once you put that frame in your mind, that reality, which is the bottom line, you understand how imperative it is to get to the two state solution, which both leaders, even yesterday, said they remain deeply committed to.”
According to the 1998 Rome Statute, the “crime of apartheid” is defined as “inhumane acts… committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” The term is most often used in reference to the system of racial segregation and oppression that governed South Africa from 1948 until 1994.
Haystack
- 28 Apr 2014 19:49
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http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/In-Israel-idea-of-annexing-parts-of-West-Bank-gains-steam-after-Hamas-Fatah-pact-350587
In Israel, idea of annexing parts of West Bank gains steam after Hamas-Fatah pact
Gilad Erdan became the highest-ranking member of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's ruling Likud faction to call for annexing Area C.
Haystack
- 30 Apr 2014 19:22
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http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.588272
Kerry was wrong: In Israel, there may never be apartheid. In the West Bank, it’s already here
By Peter Beinart
There’s an easy way to defend John Kerry’s recent claim that if Israel doesn’t achieve “a two-state solution,” it could become “an apartheid state.” Just note that several Israeli leaders and establishment American Jews have said the same thing. In 2010, former Prime Minister Ehud Barak declared, “if this bloc of millions of Palestinians [permanently] cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state” Tzipi Livni, Jeffrey Goldberg, and the late Edgar Bronfman have said all used the “A word” as well.
Haystack
- 02 Jun 2014 21:03
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Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas swore in a unity government on Monday after overcoming a last-minute dispute with Hamas.
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REUTERS
Palestinian Prime Minister Hamdallah and Palestinian President Abbas pose for a group photo with Palestinian ministers during a swearing-in ceremony of the unity government, in the West Bank city of Ramallah.
Ministers in the new administration, whom Abbas has said would be politically unaffiliated, took the oath of office in a televised ceremony in Ramallah.
The swearing in of the unity government appeared to mark a significant step in repairing ties between the rival Palestinian factions which have been at odds since 2007 when Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip from Fatah.
Haystack
- 02 Jun 2014 21:08
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Netanyahu calls emergency cabinet meeting ahead of formal PA-Hamas announcement
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu called an emergency cabinet meeting Sunday night ahead of the Palestinian Authority-Hamas formal unity government declaration. The announcement is expected to come on Monday at 1 p.m.
During the cabinet meeting, the ministers agreed to completely halt negotiations with the Palestinian Authority as long as it remains united with terror organization Hamas and to lower the amount of money transferred to the PA.
Abbas promised Kerry that the new unity government would recognize Israel and renounce violence. Hamas has not made that pledge and is still committed to the destruction of the Jewish state.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2014 10:29
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.601631
The Spanish and Italian governments issued a warning to their citizens on Friday against doing business with Israeli settlements in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights.
Haystack
- 27 Jun 2014 17:31
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EU envoy: European governments losing patience with Israel over settlements
By Barak Ravid
The EU envoy to Israel Lars Faaborg-Andersen said on Friday that the warnings issued by Spain, Italy and France against doing business with Israeli settlements in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem, and in the Golan Heights point towards the fact that EU member states "are losing their patience with concerns not being treated" by Israel."
Fred1new
- 01 Jul 2014 14:21
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It is good to have GOD on your side.
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But as somebody E-mailed me once :
"as you sow, so will you reap"
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ahoj
- 01 Jul 2014 15:29
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We live in war era, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Algeria, Nigeria, Pakistan, you name it. Israel and Palestine conflict is probably the oldest and Ukraine is the newest one.
Unfortunately, the number has been rising much faster over the last decade.
Fred1new
- 01 Jul 2014 16:04
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It is the b. stupidity of it which dismays me.
Defence I respect, planned cold blooded murder is another matter.