Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/jan/11/jeremy-corbyns-today-programme-interview-politics-live

Unions will strongly oppose Corbyn's bid to change Labour's Trident policy, GMB boss says

GMB boss tells Corbyn unions will fiercely oppose his attempt to change Labour policy on Trident

Sir Paul Kenny, the outgoing general secretary of the GMB union, has just been on the World at One telling Jeremy Corbyn that he might have to think again if he wants to commit the Labour party to unilateral disarmament. Here are the key points.

Kenny indicated that the GMB union would fiercely oppose any attempt by Corbyn to abandon Labour’s commitment to Trident.

Kenny said the GMB would oppose any attempt by Corbyn to change Labour policy making rules in the hope of getting the party to endorse unilateral disarmament. On the Today programme this morning Corbyn confirmed that he was considering this option. But Kenny said that Corbyn could not bypass existing rules and procedures.

The Labour party policy at the moment, reaffirmed at the party conference recently, is the renewal of Trident. Jeremy is perfectly entitled to say he wants to change that policy. He needs to go through the same democratic process that arrived at that policy in the first place ...

There are rules. This isssue of a mandate: I don’t remember any speech anywhere where someone said ‘I’m standing on a platform that I will do what I want, when I want, irrespective of what the rules of the Labour party are’. So let’s just get back to the basics.

Of course people are entitled to want to change policy. Why not? That is how it evolves. But there is a process and there are rules. And if anybody thinks that unions like the GMB are going to go quietly into the night while tens of thousands of our members’ jobs are literally Swaneed away by rhetoric, then they’ve got another shock coming.

(Kenny deserves credit for a particularly creative use of the word Swanee.)

He said the GMB would soon be helping to organise a conference to highlight the tens of thousands of jobs that would be lost if Trident renewal did not go ahead.

There are tens of thousands of British jobs involved here, and British workers. We are going to call a conference. There are about 50 sites around the UK whose livelihoods depend on defence contracts. We are going to ask those people what they think about the Labour party effectively shutting down their jobs. We want their voices heard in this debate.

Ah one of the many Jezzer fans has woken up.

Might put Cologne in perspective.

Last year nearly 3,800 migrants died in attempts to enter the European Union by sea. More than one million people made the sea journey successfully.

Haze,

Can you tell me where the Con party stands over the EU and the UK continuing involvement and what their political masters (donors) are telling them what to vote.


Far more important than the Trident renewal of a system which is highly unlikely and probably impractical and probably already probably has the technical systems already jammed.

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Maggie Thatcher and her crew destroy the Manufacturing and heavy industry of the UK (possibly one of the problems with the economy at the moment), changing course of the work done by the Scottish workers may be possible.

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You think the labour party have problems, wait until the referendum the tories will be at one another's throats.
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Mind having a go at Corbyn is a good diversionary tactic from Cameron ongoing failures, except when it comes back to bite his --0-0-.

Tell that to the women involved , you do have a daughter don't you Freda .

funny old life, but corbyn has leaked yet another cabinet member (catherine mckinnell) and even leader of GMB is totally opposed to corbyn's stand on trident

not much chop at creating party unity is he, but then i don't suppose mccluskey cares as i'm sure he has a different agenda of his own

Nineteen individuals are currently under investigation by the state police in connection with the attacks, NRW's interior ministry says in a report (in German), none of them German nationals.
Those 19 suspects include 14 men from Morocco and Algeria. Ten of the suspects are asylum seekers, nine of whom arrived in Germany after September 2015.
The other nine are possibly in Germany illegally, the interior ministry says.
The scale of the assaults on women in Cologne and other German cities has shocked Germany.

I can't read Fred but if he is in any way justifying what happened in Germany then he really is scrapping the barrel ,not that it surprises me i should think he hates Britain ,much like Corbyn does .
What the f**k is wrong with these people ?

aldwickk ,,,more to come trust me ,this is like a Trojan horse being wheeled in to Europe .

Jimmy we know he plumbs the depths to justify his anti everything people on here bring up . he is so mentally trained this way , you could say he's actually BRAINWASHED himself .

aldo - as if any fine aryan would ever molest a woman!

slightly at a tangent, i do find it of considerable concern that the german public broadcaster was clearly under orders to hide this incident
pretty bloody silly of course, as the rest of the world already knew, even if the "facts" still seem to move about a bit

From 6th Jan
aldwickk is right, the silence from the media is deafening. The absence of news items relating to migrants entering Europe speaks volumes, it's still happening but they are not reporting it.
2517

environment agency boss quits
and so he bloody well should
absolutely disgraceful behaviour ..... even so, i bet he'll still walk away with a bulging knapsack of bullion, and that should be stopped too

for once everyone of us is in agreement, that bosses who get sacked for gross inefficiency or similar or dismal lack of performance should forfeit much if not all of their severance package
surely it wouldn't be that difficult to put such action in place, the level of severance being determined by people outside the specific boardroom

aldo - as if any fine aryan would ever molest a woman!.

Cynic
Nobody is saying that . But not on the scale we are talking about , It's about migrants and refugees coming to Germany and being welcomed, and given food & shelter who have the money to get drunk and have a culture of no respect for women's rights.

sorry m8 but that is a hugely sweeping statement, with various assumptions made from a dubious starting point
i won't carry on, though i could

aldo is right, they come from a culture that regards wimmin as fourth rate commodities.

Hence the loony tunes religion/laws that allow discrimination on a vast scale.


I'd expect this cultural blindness/pig headedness in Fred or Stan, but you c, whats going on?

that's like saying all scots and jews are tight-fisted or all orientals are swindling bastards or all muslims are intrinsically evil fundamentalists

that is why my objection to what aldo writes ... it's how you create mass hysteria and racist hate

Ok, so all's ok in your world c?

Cynic

ok let's say that only 1,000 migrants and refugees coming to Germany and being welcomed, and given food & shelter who have the money to get drunk and have a culture of no respect for women's rights were to blame. That was how many there was according to the Police and the people who were there. There was many more in German Cities on that night.

So stop talking rubbish like Fred , next you be posting those silly cartoons

You RWRs really are a nasty bunch of miserable winging gits when it boils down to it.

Could be worse a screaming left winger and support Burnley FC....... wink