goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 15 Jan 2016 10:08
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i don't believe in Utopia
Stan
- 15 Jan 2016 10:22
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That's beside the point, how can you believe or not in something without having defined it to "yourself" .. or do you just accept what some other people may say about it, in this case the word Utopia?
jimmy b
- 15 Jan 2016 10:26
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Is that where Fred is Stan, Utopia ? i havn't got these blank spaces on this thread of late.
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2016 10:59
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Utopia only exists inside Corbyn's brain and those of his ilk. It has no connection to the real world and nor does he.
Stan
- 15 Jan 2016 11:18
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Who rang your bell?
Come on Alf.. answer the question as you would "constantly" say.
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2016 11:23
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I was hoping for yet another pic posted of the crazy bearded one.
cynic
- 15 Jan 2016 11:29
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stan - there is no "question to answer" ........ Utopia by definition is "cloud-cuckoo-land"
Stan
- 15 Jan 2016 11:34
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Yes there is.. once again
"That's beside the point, how can you believe or not in something without having defined it to "yourself" .. or do you just accept what some other people may say about it, in this case the word Utopia?"
cynic
- 15 Jan 2016 11:38
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do stop being an ass stan
Utopia was the name created by Thomas More for his imaginary island so that by definition is the definition
MaxK
- 15 Jan 2016 11:48
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Stan
- 15 Jan 2016 12:13
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So it's true.. you are a bit of a muppet when it comes for answering a straight forward question.
Haystack
- 15 Jan 2016 13:13
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There is no need to self define Utopia as it is a well well known concept. On the other hand I could come up with a new self definition of the cardinal numbers. It might make for some problems when communicating arithmetic information. While I am at it, I could self define the rules of mathematics just to make life even more difficult. Of course it would be possible to self define all concepts, but that would make conversation impossible.
That's the advantage of using commonly accepted definitions of concepts, especially when the concept is unambiguous and defined specifically by one person. it gives an opportunity for everyone to discuss the same concept. If everyone decided to self define such a concept then discussing it would become very difficult and probably pointless.
dreamcatcher
- 15 Jan 2016 17:00
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Going back to an earlier conversation Jimmy, Stan must be due a new motor. :-))
jimmy b
- 15 Jan 2016 17:05
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He'd like that , very modern for Stan .
dreamcatcher
- 15 Jan 2016 17:07
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Did you say the driver looked to young to be Stan? lol
dreamcatcher
- 15 Jan 2016 17:08
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I thought Fred would be in on the action. :-))
aldwickk
- 15 Jan 2016 20:41
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Chris Carson
- 16 Jan 2016 02:01
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JEREMY CORBYN - The gift to the Tory Party, that just keeps giving! What planet is this guy on?
Jeremy Corbyn: Ban companies from paying shareholders unless staff earn the living wage
The Labour leader will call for companies to be prevented from paying dividends unless their staff are paid above the minimum wage
By Kate McCann, Senior Political Correspondent12:01AM GMT 16 Jan 2016
Companies should be banned from paying their shareholders dividends unless their staff earn the living wage, Jeremy Corbyn has said.
The Labour leader wants to ban chief executives from handing financial returns back to investors if they rely on “cheap labour” for their profits.
But business leaders have warned the policy would mean job losses and could hit pensioners who rely on dividends for their income.
In a key speech today, Mr Corbyn will also propose salary ratios to ensure that executive pay can’t exceed set limits based on how much the lowest paid in the company earn.
In a key speech today, Mr Corbyn will also propose salary ratios to ensure that executive pay can’t exceed set limits based on how much the lowest paid in the company earn.
His comments come after research showed the highest earning workers in the UK had already earnt the UK average annual salary by January 5 this year.
Mr Corbyn will suggest a plan to “bar or restrict companies from distributing dividends until they pay all their workers the living wage.”
He will add: “Only profitable employers will be paying dividends, if they depend on cheap labour for those profits then I think there is a question over whether that is a business model to which we should be turning a blind eye.”
But Simon Walker, the director general at the Institute of Directors said: “This is completely potty. It is hard to believe that any serious politician would suggest something so bizarre and damaging to ordinary people. Paying a dividend is not an immoral act, pensioners are dependent on them for their retirement, and without them, investment in British companies would dry up.”
The Labour leader will also highlight problems of inequality and call for a publicly owned railway; council-owned energy suppliers; universal childcare and more housebuilding.
At a speech at the Fabian Society’s conference in London he will accuse David Cameron of faking his concern for balancing the books and warns Conservative plans to “shrink the state” are responsible for the floods
Stan
- 16 Jan 2016 09:21
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cynic
- 16 Jan 2016 09:24
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some of corbyn's ideas and spouting are just preposterous and even stupid beyond belief
unfortunately, he also seems to appeal to the idealistic and unworldly younger voters, and this could be dangerous