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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Stan - 01 Feb 2016 08:11 - 67458 of 81564

Morning Muppets.. how you doing?

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2016 11:10 - 67459 of 81564

Perhaps this is why Osborne Cameron and the "grandees" wish to escape the EU


Tories lobbying to protect Google’s £30bn island tax haven
Opposition figures react angrily to news that government has objected to EU’s proposed blacklisting of Bermuda as ‘unhelpful’
Bermuda
Bermuda, the British overseas territory where Google is believed to have amassed
£30bn of profits from non-US sales. Photograph: Alamy

Daniel Boffey Observer policy editor
Saturday 30 January 2016 23.37 GMT Last modified on Sunday 31 January 2016 12.36
Britain has been privately lobbying the EU to remove from an official blacklist the tax haven through which Google funnels billions of pounds of profits, the Observer can reveal.

Treasury ministers have told the European commission that they are “strongly opposed” to proposed sanctions against Bermuda, a favoured shelter for Google’s profits and one of 30 tax jurisdictions in Brussels’ sights.

The disclosure is made in a memorandum circulated among Tory MEPs in Brussels that describes potential “countermeasures” against blacklisted tax havens as “unhelpful”.

Google is expected to announce on Monday that it has amassed £30bn of profits from non-US sales in Bermuda, where companies are not liable to pay corporation tax. The UK is Google’s largest non-US market, accounting for 11% of its global revenues, according to documents filed in America.

The revelation follows widespread condemnation of the “sweetheart” deal struck between HMRC and Google that saw the internet giant agree to pay only £130m in back taxes on the estimated £7.2bn that it earned in profits over the past decade.

Despite the outcry, chancellor George Osborne has insisted that the settlement is a “major success” and denied being soft on tax avoidance.


George Osborne: Google tax deal vindicates government approach
However, an investigation by this newspaper can reveal:

■ Britain has complained to the European commission about an EU blacklist designed to hit tax havens, including Bermuda, describing it as “misleading and deeply unhelpful” and rejecting suggestions of “countermeasures”.

■ Tory MEPs were instructed on six different occasions last year to vote against proposals that would clamp down on multinationals that engage in aggressive tax avoidance.

■ A transcript of an interview from 2006 with Real Business magazine has emerged in which David Cameron says he believes Google has “headquartered” elsewhere because “we’re no longer tax-competitive”. Osborne warned in the same year that Gordon Brown’s government was “pricing Britain out of the future” with its tax demands on the search company.

The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, said that the revelations marked out government ministers as “hypocrites”. He said: “The mask has finally slipped. The Tories have been saying they want to clamp down on tax avoidance to the British people, but when they think our backs are turned they are telling their MEPs to oppose any measures to make it happen.

“The truth is they run a ‘don’t know, don’t care’ approach to tax avoidance.”

Liberal Democrat MEP Catherine Bearder said: “It is shameful that the government talks tough on tax avoidance at home, while secretly opposing the measures needed to tackle it abroad.

“This hypocrisy has got to end. Britain must start being part of the solution to tax avoidance, not part of the problem.”


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/30/google-tory-battle-protect-30bn-tax-haven-bermuda




I wonder why.

? donations to the cause!

the banana republic of the UK

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2016 11:10 - 67460 of 81564

Perhaps this is why Osborne Cameron and the "grandees" wish to escape the EU


Tories lobbying to protect Google’s £30bn island tax haven
Opposition figures react angrily to news that government has objected to EU’s proposed blacklisting of Bermuda as ‘unhelpful’
Bermuda
Bermuda, the British overseas territory where Google is believed to have amassed
£30bn of profits from non-US sales. Photograph: Alamy

Daniel Boffey Observer policy editor
Saturday 30 January 2016 23.37 GMT Last modified on Sunday 31 January 2016 12.36
Britain has been privately lobbying the EU to remove from an official blacklist the tax haven through which Google funnels billions of pounds of profits, the Observer can reveal.

Treasury ministers have told the European commission that they are “strongly opposed” to proposed sanctions against Bermuda, a favoured shelter for Google’s profits and one of 30 tax jurisdictions in Brussels’ sights.

The disclosure is made in a memorandum circulated among Tory MEPs in Brussels that describes potential “countermeasures” against blacklisted tax havens as “unhelpful”.

Google is expected to announce on Monday that it has amassed £30bn of profits from non-US sales in Bermuda, where companies are not liable to pay corporation tax. The UK is Google’s largest non-US market, accounting for 11% of its global revenues, according to documents filed in America.

The revelation follows widespread condemnation of the “sweetheart” deal struck between HMRC and Google that saw the internet giant agree to pay only £130m in back taxes on the estimated £7.2bn that it earned in profits over the past decade.

Despite the outcry, chancellor George Osborne has insisted that the settlement is a “major success” and denied being soft on tax avoidance.


George Osborne: Google tax deal vindicates government approach
However, an investigation by this newspaper can reveal:

■ Britain has complained to the European commission about an EU blacklist designed to hit tax havens, including Bermuda, describing it as “misleading and deeply unhelpful” and rejecting suggestions of “countermeasures”.

■ Tory MEPs were instructed on six different occasions last year to vote against proposals that would clamp down on multinationals that engage in aggressive tax avoidance.

■ A transcript of an interview from 2006 with Real Business magazine has emerged in which David Cameron says he believes Google has “headquartered” elsewhere because “we’re no longer tax-competitive”. Osborne warned in the same year that Gordon Brown’s government was “pricing Britain out of the future” with its tax demands on the search company.

The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, said that the revelations marked out government ministers as “hypocrites”. He said: “The mask has finally slipped. The Tories have been saying they want to clamp down on tax avoidance to the British people, but when they think our backs are turned they are telling their MEPs to oppose any measures to make it happen.

“The truth is they run a ‘don’t know, don’t care’ approach to tax avoidance.”

Liberal Democrat MEP Catherine Bearder said: “It is shameful that the government talks tough on tax avoidance at home, while secretly opposing the measures needed to tackle it abroad.

“This hypocrisy has got to end. Britain must start being part of the solution to tax avoidance, not part of the problem.”


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/30/google-tory-battle-protect-30bn-tax-haven-bermuda




I wonder why.

? donations to the cause!

the banana republic of the UK

cynic - 01 Feb 2016 11:30 - 67461 of 81564

oh dear ..... they've let him out of the asylum again
last few weeks have been bliss

2517GEORGE - 01 Feb 2016 11:34 - 67462 of 81564

They've not fixed his dodgy finger either.
2517

cynic - 01 Feb 2016 11:36 - 67463 of 81564

it's stuck up his arse

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2016 11:39 - 67464 of 81564

I take it Freds back .

aldwickk - 01 Feb 2016 12:07 - 67465 of 81564

Stan - 01 Feb 2016 08:11 - 67459 of 67465

Morning Muppet.. how you doing?


Fred1new

Now you have started calling me a Muppet

Stan - 01 Feb 2016 12:20 - 67466 of 81564

Troll alert.. and if you are going to quote people do try and get it right next time.

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2016 13:00 - 67467 of 81564

Manuel,

I can't help the riff raff you eulogise and fawn about!

Read the article.

aldwickk - 01 Feb 2016 13:18 - 67468 of 81564

Stan

You dumbo , that was the point ..... think about it

p.s. i thought you had me on filter

cynic - 01 Feb 2016 13:45 - 67469 of 81564

fred - i eulogise about no one though i know it suits your agenda to claim that i do
i also retain my right to skate straight past 97% of your polemic posts

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2016 13:49 - 67470 of 81564

Fred's back and the thread is an argument straight away , why don't you just filter him ?

Try it you might like it.

cynic - 01 Feb 2016 14:14 - 67471 of 81564

have only ever filtered MRSI in his various guises and MrT (i think) and have no wish to add to my hall of infamy

aldwickk - 01 Feb 2016 14:29 - 67472 of 81564

infamy , infamy , they all have it infamy

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2016 14:32 - 67473 of 81564

That's nasty if you pick that up (MRSI) usually from a hospital.

iturama - 01 Feb 2016 14:41 - 67474 of 81564

If you think that's nasty, just imagine what you can pick up off Fred...

Stan - 01 Feb 2016 16:07 - 67475 of 81564

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2016 16:19 - 67476 of 81564

I think the neo-cons are more like pack animals than muppets.

How much of the market's vacillations are due to Wavey Dave's twistings and divings.

He is a sham!

Stan - 01 Feb 2016 17:31 - 67477 of 81564

The Muppets are the right wing posters on here Fred.. and they know who they are -):
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