Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Rubbish ,he just tells it as it is whereas all the others are now so politically correct and scared of the left wing loons they won't speak out.

You could always vote with your friend Corbyn Hays. He wants in with an even more socialist EU.

That is part of the problem. There are loons in all directions. I do think that the EU is destined to get worse and more unstable.

Yet your best mate, Haystack, wants in even more.

How do you square the bollox and Cameroon?

There are plenty of sensible people on both sides of the argument. There is no obvious answer of whether to leave or not.

There are plenty of sensible people on both sides of the argument...........

Like wanting Turkey to join the EU ? a country mainly in Asia and with most of it's border with the middle east..

What's European about Turkey !!!!!

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farage is in the lucky(?) position of being neither an mp himself nor having even a handful of followers in westminster
thus, he can stand on his soapbox and spout whatever he fancies - some of it not entirely loony - without fear of repercussion

The intention is to make Turkey more European by joining the EU, although I think it is misguided.

Farage is an MEP so he has seen the asylum from the inside. Refreshingly, he is not swayed by the gravy train boarded by the likes of the Kinnocks and as for Westminster that is hardly representative of the nation. As I remember, Ukip with one MP had almost 3 times the vote of the SNP with 56.
Fortunately MPs will only have one vote in the referendum, like the rest of us.

i fully concur that there is much rotten within the whole eu system, starting with a parliament that pays itself whatever it likes, spends money as if it were bolivars and does nothing (as far as i can see) to stem the huge areas of corruption and profligacy within the system

however, is that in itself sufficient reason to walk out?

i don't know and waver like a flag in a light summer breeze

'Migrants are pushing NHS to breaking point':

Top cancer doctor warns health tourists are bleeding hospitals dry with demand for treatment

Professor Angus Dalgleish is preparing speech speaking out against EU

Says British hospitals are struggling to cope with demand from refugees

Will insist this considerable expense partly explains NHS's £3billion deficit



By James Slack, Political Editor For The Daily Mail

Published: 23:54, 8 February 2016 | Updated: 00:43, 9 February 2016




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3438040/Top-cancer-doctor-warns-health-tourist-migrants-bleeding-hospitals-dry-demand-treatment-leaving-NHS-breaking-point.html

I was astonished to hear Cameron saying that without the French all the migrants will be in southern England. Whatever happened to the Churchillian spirit? Are we afraid or too weak to protect our borders?
As Eric Hoffer said "you can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you". Cameron has started the propaganda war while his cabinet is gagged. But by saying he can't protect our borders he is showing that he is not fit to be PM.

That's what i said yesterday iturama , i think he made a huge mistake in saying that.

He is getting blasted from all sides now for scaremongering ..

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/is-it-really-wise-for-david-cameron-to-threaten-us-with-migrants/

I think the Spectator article just about sums it up.

Cameron may be right. If we are outside the EU then the French may cancel the agreement between us and them over the border. Under that agreement, they stop people in France without the necessary papers. Without the agreement they can let everyone on ferries and through the tunnel. We would have to process everyone on the UK side. The immigrants would all claim asylumn as they arrived and we would be stuck with them.

How would they let everyone on to the Ferries Hays ? would P&O just set sail when a 1000 migrants have stormed the boat ?

If blighty was outside the €U, then it could turn off the benefits tap to all and sundry.

However do we control air passengers to the UK? Fine the ferry companies 50K for everyone that lands illegally and then send them back on the same boat. That's what sovereignty is all about. They are not asylum seekers if they land from France.
The problem is not the ferries. The bigger problem is road transport. But the government will need to get tough. You land illegally, you go back the same day you are caught. No reviews in the UK. That's what happens at Heathrow.