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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 13:52 - 67686 of 81564

Stan any type of response from you would be welcome ,so go on ......

Stan - 09 Feb 2016 13:55 - 67687 of 81564

I have just done so.. you blind as well now or what?

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 13:56 - 67688 of 81564

You call that an intelligent response ?

Stan - 09 Feb 2016 13:57 - 67689 of 81564

In your case yes.

iturama - 09 Feb 2016 14:00 - 67690 of 81564

Stan doesn't do intelligent responses. Just jeers from the sidelines no matter which way the ball is being played. As for Fred. Who cares?

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 14:00 - 67691 of 81564

All you keep saying is Tory Muppets have no response , to what ? you havn't given anyone anything to respond to !!

Stan - 09 Feb 2016 14:05 - 67692 of 81564

I don't have time to bandy words with the likes of you.. I have lunch to eat.

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 14:15 - 67693 of 81564

Well done Stan you made yourself look really intelligent with those last few comments.

Stan - 09 Feb 2016 15:50 - 67694 of 81564

My intelligence is not in doubt, however this can't be said about you RWR's of course.

cynic - 09 Feb 2016 15:52 - 67695 of 81564

you're right stan; we are all aware of the level of your intelligence :-)

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 16:10 - 67696 of 81564

First, immigrants. Now, terrorism. Will Cameron’s EU scaremongering ever stop?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/project-fear-scaremongering-almost-lost-scotland-what-makes-cameron-think-it-will-work-for-england/

cynic - 09 Feb 2016 16:14 - 67697 of 81564

the eu discussion really ought to be primarily about economics and reforming eu interference and procedure in all its guises, and finally immigration

unfortunately, joe bloggs and his cousins are totally fixated on the immigration issue, their opinions all too often being formed of prejudice and perception rather than actuality

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 16:19 - 67698 of 81564

I have to say your right it should be about all that you mention but "finally immigration" i have to disagree there ,we are being swamped with half a million people per year and it is a massive crisis.
Just look at the towns in Lincolnshire Boston etc .

Haystack - 09 Feb 2016 16:29 - 67700 of 81564

I read an article the other day about how the Scots might tip the balance towards leaving the EU. It is well known that the SNP have been saying that they will only accept the referendum vote to leave if all four parts of the UK vote out. An overall vote to leave would produce a new Scottish leave the UK referendum.

That being the case, there could be campaigning by the Scots to leave the EU hoping for an overall leave result.

cynic - 09 Feb 2016 16:46 - 67701 of 81564

jimmy - like most of the hoi polloi (sorry old chap!) you do not seem to differentiate between economic migrants with no skills, genuine war refugees like the syrians, and migrants who are or would be of immediate benefit to the country like nurses and many others

i certainly like the principle of the oz points system, and we have a very strong moral obligation to take in a good number of war refugees (even if we were reluctant to do so 75 years ago, as surprisingly was switzerland), many of whom will of course be well educated

however, i would certainly back legislation that imposed restrictions on benefits for migrants (yes it may be technically unfair) and certainly on the apparent ability to bring in extended family

i would also like to see legislation that made deportation very much easier

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 16:56 - 67702 of 81564

You can call me what you like ,i personally don't like to see British market towns become 30% Lithuanian ,simple as that and if that makes me a non European who doesn't want to join in the experiment of opening up our towns to millions of East Europeans then yes that's me .

Maybe you don't know any young people who now have a real problem finding work and when they do it's zero hours contracts, and when you talk about nurses i am well aware my sister has a job very high up in the NHS ,she employs a lot of professional staff and tells me that we couldn't survive without them , which is also a shame that many of our youngsters don't see nursing as a career .
I suppose i really don't like the Britain of the 2000's and for that i won't apologise.

cynic - 09 Feb 2016 17:17 - 67703 of 81564

tell me, when does a migrant become british in your eyes?

have the asian and chinese communities (for example) added to the country's wealth both economically and culturally?

jimmy b - 09 Feb 2016 17:27 - 67704 of 81564

Yes they have ,the Indians who came over in 60's / 70's have added to the UK but they were not coming in numbers as they are today.
They didn't take over towns and they didn't arrive half a million year in year out ,you know that is not sustainable .
I actually like a lot of the Indian community and before Fred and Stan turn up to call me a racist most of my early life has been spent with foreign people from all over (i'm not going to get in to why but it has)

cynic - 09 Feb 2016 17:35 - 67705 of 81564

hmm .... you may care to look at places like bradford, and i'm sure most of them are not recent arrivals

but yes, i certainly agree that the current levels of immigration are putting far too great a strain on resources and strong measures are required even if implementing them would assuredly be very much more difficult than imagined
even if we left eu tomorrow, i am not entirely sure how much we could control eurozone migration if we are to maintain one of uk's main markets ...... norway might give a clue, though in economic terms, it's a real minnow and much smaller still if you remove their oil income
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