Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

You have to realise that the stay in campaign has not started and won't until Cameron's discussions have finished. That makes the polls likely to be wrong at the moment. It may appear that the exit side are ahead, but that is a temporary thing.

Another belter from poor boy H/S. "Like all unions, they dislike change."

.. it's laugh a minute on here with some of you "Con" artist voters these days it really is.

The stay in campaign has never stopped.

As for dave's negotiations, they never started in reality, just a series of play acting sketches with the goon squad.

You must think people cant see what a prat he is making of himself, and by extension, the rest of us.

Unions have always been failed luddites.

It looks like June 23 for the referendum.

I will probably vote out, but think we will stay in. My reasons are different from the mainstream arguments.

The "Con" artists are the failures among other things.. but there again we know that.

It is instructive to see how socialism has failed everywhere. Capitalism survives because it is Infinitely modifiable. In this country every Labour government has ended in a crisis. Take France and Venezuela. Socialism has failed there dismally and Hollande is the most disliked leader there ever. Venezuela is a more extreme version at the catastrophic end of the scale with astronomic inflation and shortages of everything.

"The "Con" artists are the failures among other things.. but there again we know that."

Thank you for agreeing with me H/S

Typical tactics, not big enough to admit to being wrong again.. just tries to change the subject.

The Conservatives have been very successful. Just look at Thatcher. She was brilliant. Crushing Scargill and his ilk was just one of her triumphs.

Nighty night then.

Now there is a failure in the making.

Haystack - 15 Feb 2016 00:51 - 67798 of 67798

Now there is a failure in the making.

.. Yes I think you probably are.

67783 - if the (any) gov't wants to decide what doctors should be paid and under what contract terms they should work, then it should take on board (which it clearly hasn't) that doctors have no obligation to accept these terms and can and will and are voting with their feet

Only a very few are leaving the NHS. If they feel underpaid then that is what they should do. Striking should not be an option.

Free movement of labour is not a bad thing. I have practiced it all my life. In reality, it is quite easy when you are young and unattached. Less easy when you have a family, schooling, partner's job, to consider.
It is the right of the government to decide what it can afford in government owned businesses. And I don't really buy the 7 year training complaint. That's similar to EU employers demanding more because they have a second language when in most cases their mother tongue, if not english, is of little relevance internationally.
All graduates go through a junior phase of several years before they become really useful to their employer and often they are poached by other companies thereafter.
That's life.

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"If they feel underpaid then that is what they should do. Striking should not be an option."

Oh do put a sock in it H/S you extremist Right Wing loony.

Stan,

No.

He is just a paid up member of the Con Club and obeys Lynton Crosby.

He likes being owned by the Cayman Islands.

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I suppose he could be doing a runner!

The two carpers are still at it, typical labourites.
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