Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic will form his own view of this bloody and largely mindless conflict, caring not whether it is deemed to be patronising one side or another

oh, I doubt it.

Cynic appears to have a mind of concrete - thoroughly mixed and permanently set.

The Israeli warning after the rocket attack on Israel this morning has been ignored and mortar fire from Gaza has wounded three people.
The response will come and will be "disproportionate". Understandably. The sufferings of the innocents in Gaza is created by Hamas. Pure and simple.

And what good will it do?

At how will it enable any future peace initiatives?

If the toll of life from the "disproportionate", how many further generations will have distorted views and attempt to wreak revenge?

The response, you appearing to be suggesting, is as primitive as the action of the people firing the rockets.

Both sides probably of the same genetic base.

Stupid.

Fred: Both sides probably of the same genetic base.

This time, you are correct.

Both the Arabs and the Jews are Semitic races (as indeed are the Assyrians some of whose descendants are seen as Christian Iraqis these days). Hence the use of the expression "anti-semitic" to mean "anti-Jewish" is a relatively modern usage.

I have no idea what he has come out and said, (squelched), but the last lot to come out repeatedly with "genetic" origin and "racial" origin crap was the Nazis.
Same thing with identifying someone as being Jewish (e.g Trotsky) or Arab or Muslim or whatever; also a load of ill thought out crap; comment on someone (if you really must) by their actions, not their "race" or religion.
Otherwise you end up going around condemning doctors because of Shipman or Mengele.
The sooner we all interbreed and look the same colour etc., the better. Same with religion, the sooner that dies out and we all concentrate on our common humanity, the better.
Intelligence or academic achievement is no bar to sheer ignorance, tunnel vision or plain stupidity.

Once again, I think Charts is looking in the mirror.

gausie ... you may (or may not) know plenty about plenty, but about me you know bugger all

MC
do you not think it better to reply knowing what it is you are replying to?
rather than basing it upon the assumption of what was said based upon latter replies by others.
i have never squelched anyone regardless of what they may have said or posted about me. how can i talk or negotiate with such persons if i choose to ignore them? that is a personal matter so i shall not delve further. i would however ask this further open question.. as follows. if we choose to squelch a poster and inform him so, i.e. we cannot read his/her post would it not be right and proper that we in turn do not comment on or refer to his/her same posts.
after they are squelched, they do not exist anymore as far as we are concerned.
they may exist to others, but not to us. so what right do we have to make comment on a post that we have chosen to squelch and not read?
am i mistaken?
regards
jkd
edit ps i agree with you mostly

JKD,
As for "negotiation" I have already said you cannot debate with the irrational.
Others have made cogent points which have been totally and persistently ignored by the OP. So how can you discuss anything with him?
Just like Hamas, actually.
I understand what you're saying, but my last post was generic in nature and not aimed at him. They were comments resulting from previous posts in this thread.
Just because I have squelched him does not preclude me from making general comments about the evils of racism and prejudice.
If he, you or anyone else associates those observations with a specific individual then that is their prerogative. Now you may well think I'm being disingenuous, but believe me, I worded that post carefully and if you re-read it you will find I have not responded to him, as I don't know nor care what he said, nor crafted an indirect response to another poster quoting him.
I simply followed a train of thought initiated by the word "genetic".
I will continue to post as I think appropriate, that includes desisting from saying certain things on a public bulletin board.

MC
i seem to have a habit of not wording my posts too well. i just say it as it comes out. probly why i so often have to add edits and ps's.
regards
jkd

Mr Charts - your self restraint is admirable.

I, on the other hand, am happy to state the obvious and point out that Fred's a prick.

re racism etc .... strongly recommend the film Crash .... very very good indeed

Why dont the billionaires of Dubai who pay $2m for a number plate or the Arab owners of man City who are prepared to pay Kaka 500,000 per week to play football,donate to the Gaza emergency fund???

Simple.The problem is not on their doorstep and they simply dislike the Palestinians-fact,black and white.I know I lived and work in Arab countries.

more to the point, they reckon charity starts (and ends) at home ..... you forget that only 30/40 years these guys and their parents were either trundling around the sesert on camels or pearl fishing

Gausiethe cartoon boy.. your attitude stinksyou care about nothing or no onestrange from someone that relies heavily on aid from his mummy

JKD,
I occasionally used the squelch button, but reserve for individuals who I think rejoice in being grossly personally offensive to me, or others. Sometimes, attempts are made to pass off such remarks as humorous. Having written that, I do enjoy some political satire.

Also, I use the squelch button for those, who I think debate or present arguments at schoolyard, or farmyard levels of thought. (This probably sounds pompous, but now as I am retired, I am allowed my own comfort zones.)

However, I dont make guesses, or respond to what somebody has, or may write, without reading it first. I think that, if I was doing so, I would be bordering on the psychotic or be omniscient.

As yet, I have not squelched MrCharts, as generally I find his contributions amusing. Also, his postings may give an insight into some of the moral positioning, of some Israelis. In my mind, the positions appear to be of a similar nature to the more extreme positioning of some Palestinians.

I hope, these extreme positions are only held by the minorities of each group and the more rational may be able to negotiate sensibly.

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I think of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, is based more on ethnic differences rather than a true racial divide (depending on usage of racial). I think, possibly, if the problem was approached with regard to the cultural and economic differences, a solution may be found. There would have to be a mutual acceptance of cultural differences and the enablement of Palestinians to develop a free truly independent economy and be fully self-governing, which is not dependent of the largess of an Israeli Government

That means allowing both groups of Palestinians to develop free trading route for Gaza and the West Bank.

There would also have to be a reversal of the recent Israeli Encroachment and Settlements on Palestinian land.

Fred .... you presuppose that the lunatics on both sides are capable of common sense

Cynic, No, but I have this phantasy of the sane taking over the lunatic asylum once again.