for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

mm`s rarely `hold` stock, 99% of stock is merely an electronic blip on a hard disc that never comes to a fruition, they`l short it on the market if they are stuck with some nasties, oh and 661k have been traded on VirtX- crafty those mm`s?
Downward pressure will show without some concrete news, understandable by technoprats- like " we are making loadsamoney"!!!!!, but its Friday, pretty drearie too.

21p is close to breaking.

ps make that 691k on VirtX

seq, whats virtx,please?

Alternative market to the LSE-Swiss

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SEO1.VX&d=t

http://www.virt-x.com/

not easy to check buys and sells either -just volume.

PI shafted again - bring on SETS

SETs is coming to small-caps fast- see Bullies thread

Yep, and SEO will be SETs traded.

pth

what's the reason seo isn't sets traded already?

AIM stock / market capitialisation I guess.

pth

AIM? SEO is not on AIM

bit of a poor week for seo. one can only hope for news next week. cfds are great when you are winning but..........

If i remember correctly the trials for the third supplier began on 8th june,
over 3 weeks ago. Tests are supposed to take 2 weeks, the 1st took a long time but with Hitchens much quicker. I feel it won't be to long (maybe in the next week or 2) before the all clear is given, once that happens the SP will imho recover well into the 20's,and with it would come speculation and remours which may rocket it to new highs.
But new orders for conversion will gather momentum,as it will be expected
by ASDA, therefore sustaining any SP increase. And of course the remours(Walmart etc) may just turn out to be true?
cyril

harwood27

Hence the 'I guess'. Please feel free to enlighten me, or is it a secret?

pth

I don`t like this setup, want the old bb back.

so do I ,but its not going to happen !!

i think it's great!!

i'm confused , i'm not a man for change, but i suppose we will get used to it.

My comments are - most people seem to have avoided or become blind to it for their love of the share there are no patents granted for Greenseal the suppliers are not ordering and it is my opinion we are only a few more months away from competition being live and a new player entering with a big fanfare. There are problems with Greenseal there are severe delays - April ending trials still not finished by the 3rd of July there will not be the 1000 orders that are already contained in the price in the coming three to five years IMO. Please see the below between Oblo and Wendy D as ever FYB posters do not want to hear anything potentially anti SEO Ramp/Hype/Spin IMO so best not to talk about it and forget it but hey lets all keep talking ramp of rollouts and 27,000 machines LOL ;-) Talk ramp but do not talk truth LOL ;-)

I was not going to go into this subject yet awhile but as Oblo is now raising it then think of this there are no patents granted SE0 have said they are rushing everything as no doubt soon competition will come they IMO know its coming soon they have rushed in to buy the loss making Biotec for 25M US$ to make Greenseal something else this means IMO they know they cannot patent Greenseal and so as competition is coming on line soon they are trying at this late stage to change their strategy. It is rushed inconclusive and could well spell disaster its panic mode as they know large orders are not coming BUT competition is.

From Oblo to Wendy D over at FYB 02-Jul-05 at 22:26

The original message was from Wendy D to Oblo 2nd July 05 18:32

Wendy,
I can assure you I have no desire to prolong this topic of conversation and it has continued for this long presumably because it is a key issue and has drawn strong response. It is a sensitive subject not helped by the past Bioprogress situation.I cannot be realistically accused of prolonging it - I merely posted the facts and seem to have struck a nerve! I have consequently posted replies to posts and at every opportunity said I would like to let the subject drop, because it has obviously become emotive. It is others who would not let the subject drop, if you check the posts. I have continued to post responses because of the aggressive and abusive response my posts have attracted and because I have felt this to be in the interest of the many non-posting readers of this thread who are here purely to obtain a balanced view of Stanelco from the view of prospective investors.I hope you will give me the courtesy to make one final post responding to your points, and then hopefully the subject can be put to rest, at least until more concrete data comes into the public domain!My answers (shown bold) to your post (repeated in italics) are as follows and are submitted in the hope that some clarity can be gleaned from the last few weeks posts and my reasons for making them - this is my final posts on this matter, whatever provocation, and I hope there will be no response so that readers can come to their own opinion and the matter can drop!

So I take it that your provocative comments regarding "patent issues" with Greenseal, and their subsequent adverse impact on the share price, are founded on opinion rather than fact - i.e. your opinion that the process for making foam trays claimed in WO2004103687 might be an integral part of the Greenseal technology? Or that applications made for Greenseal might refer back to the claims embodied in WO2004103687?

These comments were not intended to be provocative and I cannot see that they are (I believe that it is I who has been most provoked).
They are founded on fact rather than opinion. The patent issues are not my opinion - if a patent application has citations made by the Patent Examiners then a patent issue exists. This is not my opinion, it is the opinion of the Patent Office examiners. Applications for Greenseal WILL refer back to claims embodied in WO2004103687 because by its very nature as a prior published application it has become prior art.

I agree with you that there is no guarantee that WO2004103687 will be awarded to Stanelco, as there are 6 cases of prior art cited, one of which is similar in some respects to the process claimed by Stanelco. That is a matter for the patent offices in the various countries concerned to decide.

Agreed, generally. There are technical errors in what you say, but for the sake of argument I would agree.

But at present, we are not aware of the detail of any patent applications Stanelco have made regarding Greenseal, and will not be aware until the applications are published in full. Hence any supposition that there will be "patent issues" with Greenseal, linked to WO2004103687, can only be based on guesswork, not fact.

Agreed. I have always used words such as possibility, may potential etc. and tried to highlight those words. Guesswork is a key word here and of course our guesswork can be aided by past experience in these situations, if we have any. We must not lose sight of the fact that our investment judgements are fuelled by guesswork.
One of the main points I have endeavoured to bring to the thread is that SEO have at present have no patent protection - we can only guess at what the protection, if any, will be.

Similarly, those who state that there will NOT be any patent issues regarding Greenseal are equally stating merely their opinion, not fact.

Agreed - never said otherwise.

I am glad that you do not wish to discuss this issue further, and strongly suggest to all posters that, in the interests of non-confrontation, until the Greenseal patent applications are published, and details of the processes claimed are made public, this matter should remain closed.

I agree totally, and have said so before if you read my posts.

ii, i hope this DOES echo your sentiments

"I am glad that you do not wish to discuss this issue further, and strongly suggest to all posters that, in the interests of non-confrontation, until the Greenseal patent applications are published, and details of the processes claimed are made public, this matter should remain closed."

now give it a rest!