Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

its funny all these companies avoid uk tax telling us to vote in

the crooks want it always

so until we get figs I will vote out

cynic no they use the services and if I put a caravan in my field and allow some one to live in it they have to pay council tax fact I did it but found it was more hassle than it was worth and he was a lad I new

all have a nice day off to see friends then off to the coast till monday

just before I go

my div off CNA JUST OVER 20K FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS

councils are never afraid to charge council tax, so i'm sure it has to do with how long "temporary dwellings" are deemed such ....... farms have always had certain specific rules and regs that apply only to them

Well they can only be there when the crops need picking , and then they move on I would think .

And what does my local MP have to say about 'IN or OUT'?

“I have spoken to thousands of people on the doorstep, at my advice surgeries and at public meetings to hear their views, and spoken in Parliament about the need for the EU to become more competitive, flexible and democratically accountable.

The simple truth is that the status quo is no longer an option. The EU’s share of global economic activity is falling (from 30% in 1980 to 17% in 2015), the Euro currency members must move ever closer to avoid economic disaster (which will leave Britain sidelined), and the migration crisis resulting from their open door policy is changing Europe forever.

This is not a decision I have taken lightly, nor is it a decision I have made quickly. I profoundly believe that our future is brighter out of the European Union and that we will be better in every way by setting our sights once more on the global stage."

Andrea Leadsom
MP for South Northamptonshire

Wow, what a good lady you have there Exec .

The numbers involved are tiny in the scheme of things. A few immigrants picking fruit almost for free doesn't affect our economy. It is just an excuse to be xenophobic. The reality is that 85% of immigrants do not claim benefits. Most get sensible jobs. It is the small numbers on the fringe that get the publicity. It is the exaggeration of them as a problem that enables UKIP to act as rabble rousers.

that as may be, but certainly the gang culture (for workers!) offends - but then so do gypsy encampments even more!

How many more East Europeans would you like to take in then Hays ? can the UK take a population of 80 million or 90 million ?

Or am i being a rabble rouser ?

The easiest option to save the euro project is for Germany to exit. The rest may have a chance of competing thereafter. Germany has a cheap currency and now lots of cheap labour.

***** is seeking to end the population’s dependence on government handouts.

sounds almost like uk doesn't it :-)

a fairly easy quiz Q
what country is the above?

What Brexit would look like for Britain

Dan Hannan


‘So what’s your alternative?’ demand Euro-enthusiasts. ‘D’you want Britain to be like Norway? Or like Switzerland? Making cuckoo clocks? Is that what you want? Is it? Eh?’



Full story and a few eye opening factoids:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/what-britain-would-look-like-after-brexit/

a very interesting article, though its bias is obvious

Well Hannan, like Farage, has seen the EU from the inside. Must be worth something. The more shrill the voices of doom become about leaving, the more certain I am that they are wrong.

Our population is estimated to increase to 70 million over the next 12 years. We are growing in population slower than most countries and we take the least immigrants. UKIP has done a good job in making immigration a worry for people. And UKIP is very similar to the BNP and attracts similar supporters. Immigration is not such a problem as is made out. The real problem is the lack of infrastructure to support our population. UKIP only gained any serious following when the last recession began. In times of economic difficulty, parties at the extreme fringes start to do well. They appeal to people's fears and basic instincts.

How do you know our population is set to increase to 70 million in the next 12 years , nobody can estimate that with the doors open to 500 million people .

I take it your voting to stay then Hays ?

A factor in people wishing to leave the EU is the belief that laws are passed that affect us where we have no sovereign right to challenge them.

That could be an important thing. However, it seems that no one can thing of any examples.

Is there anyone here who has been affected in their day to day life by an EU law that is anyway onerous?

Jimmy
No, I am voting out for different reasons.

The estimate of 70m is from the ONS. Farage gave massive estimates of people who would come here from Romania etc and he was completely wrong. Knowing the total numbers in the EU doesn't tell you how many will actually come.