Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Well we need inflation don't we , Saudi isn't helping there at all . Seems madness to do what they are doing produce more of a finite resource and get paid less . ( they have actually produced more during this period )

H/S The only part of your post that is true is the" We need smaller populations", the rest is not true.

After an extensive ring round, cajoling and much browbeating the updated count for Tory MPs is now; 140 for Out, 146 for In. This is the first time that Guido’s list has shown the Remainians leading. 44 still in play…




http://order-order.com/2016/02/23/more-tory-mps-declare-for-in/

Stan
You will not see full employment in your lifetime of much higher wages. You will see the lowest paid scraping a living or having no job at all and living on benefits. It will be like it is now but worse. That is not to say it is right of wrong, but that is how it will be. Increasingly manufacturing will be done in developing countries. The developed countries will be consumers and providers of tech and services. If you don't have a job in tech or services then you will be poor.

Who is going to buy the goods, and more to the point, what will they use for money?

The people with jobs will buy the goods. There will be two very different classes. There will be the ones with disposable income and an underclass.

bit like now then ....... are you one of the ubermensch?
:-)

So, the end of civilisation as we know it?


Dystopian to put it mildly.


The books I have read outlining these types of scenarios, all tend to end one way.

There is effectively an underclass now. If you grouped people by life expectancy, smokers, being overweight, poor education, buyers of fast and pre-prepared food, substance abuse you would end up with two distinct groups.

Smoking alone shows that. Smoking has largely died out amongst the middle classes.

There was a report a couple of days ago that had the wealthiest 10% living to around 95 and the poorest 10% live 35 years less. The difference was put down to choices that the two groups make.

And then there's stuff like the black economy, car boot sales, flogging stuff on eBay, Gumtree, etc, etc,.....

I wonder if these methods of people earning a few £ will grow?

That's why they want to ban cash.

Then the banks/gov will have full control over your money...or so they think.

I would suggest PostCapitalism: A Guide to Our Future by Paul Mason might be interesting for some to read.

Quite thoughtful and readable.


There are obvious limitations to consumer economic theories.

Though, some won't accept them.

We have to be generous and make allowances for people like H/S and his me me, up the ladder jack right wing utopian dream and hope that one day he reforms.. but there again.

Stan
I didn't say that I agreed with what the future holds or that I thought it was good or right.

But you agree with your main man, even though he's acting like a shill for the €uro brigade.

..You don't have to H/S.

No. I will vote out.

I do agree with Cameron that he got the best deal available. My reason for leaving have nothing to do with the things he was discussing.

Do share.

Lazy, incompetent, inpatient and frankly bone headed Police force alert!

Dog dies after being deliberately run over by police in Conwy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35644209

Well whatever happens in the future , taking in endless amounts of immigrants is not really doing us or EU any good is it just stacking up big problems in the future .