goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 10:00
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The EU referendum campaign sets off with Leave one point ahead
The news has moved fast since David Cameron struck a deal to give the UK "special status" in the EU last weekend, as six high-profile Cabinet members made up their minds and joined the Leave campaign before Boris Johnson finally announced he would defy the Prime Minister's advice and support Leave – a decision coinciding with a slump in the value of Sterling to a seven-year low. When Mr Cameron first announced his draft proposals for the deal the media reaction was cold, and YouGov polling found both a boost for Leave and more than twice as many saying the deal was bad (45%) than good (22%).
In the first poll since the starting gun has been fired on the EU referendum campaign, YouGov's research for the Times shows there's everything to play for, as Leave falls seven points from 45% to 38% to meet Remain at 37% in an almost neck-and-neck race.
2517GEORGE
- 24 Feb 2016 10:01
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For memory UKIP had around 4m votes in the GE, that's a lot of possible out votes.
2517
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 10:05
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cynic i really believe Britain can stand on it's own two feet providing we have strong government .
cynic
- 24 Feb 2016 10:24
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jimmy - much of what happens after the event, especially if "out", will be out of any one gov't's hands
not entirely sure what you mean by "strong gov't" in any case, but assuredly i see no one on any side who inspires much confidence at all ....... and no, boris certainly wouldn't either!
MaxK
- 24 Feb 2016 10:33
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So, Dave's deal appears to be worthless..
EU referendum: Downing Street rejects Michael Gove's claim that Prime Minister's EU deal is 'not legally binding'- live
The Justice Secretary has argued that until the treaties are modified the European Court of Justice is “not bound” by the agreement
By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent
10:20AM GMT 24 Feb 2016
Latest
10:20
Who's right, the solicitor general or Michael Gove?
In Facts, a fact checking service that supports membership, comes down on the side of Michael Gove, writes Matthew Holehouse in Brussels.
The deal may be legally binding on its signatories, but it cannot preempt the verdict of the ECJ and the Parliament which are required to pass elements of the deal.
That means the emergency brake can be torn to pieces, either by MEPs or judges on Luxembourg.
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12171256/EU-referendum-Michael-Gove-David-Cameron-Boris-Johnson-Brexit-PMQs-live.html
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 10:35
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I don't think Boris would be good and i don't think he will ever be in the top job .
A strong government meaning how much of a disaster would Labour be in the next few years .
cynic
- 24 Feb 2016 10:44
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if you get labour elected, suggest you find the nearest bridge or high building!
Fred1new
- 24 Feb 2016 10:50
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Why wait?
Why don't both of you hold hands and jump now?
2517GEORGE
- 24 Feb 2016 10:55
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No matter what our politicians say, a ‘stay’ vote gives the EU a mandate to reach across the channel and strip our nation of its sovereignty and freedom.
If Britain tries to leave the EU, the rules state that we must negotiate our way out. That means we sit at a table with the European Council… and we cannot leave until they “agree” terms acceptable to them.
As for the new PM Michael Gove, he would be the person to do the negotiations with the EU, and lead Britain after Brexit.
2517
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2016 10:58
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George
There was an interesting poll that found 28% of UKIP supporters would vote to stay in the EU.
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 11:02
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cynic if that happens with Corbyn as PM i'll meet you on the top floor of the shard .
That is an interesting statistic Hays .
VICTIM
- 24 Feb 2016 11:10
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You could always go and live in a foreign country , and be a foreigner and when you are a foreigner in that country you couldn't really complain about too many foreigners could you really , that's my thinking at the moment , better than throwing yourself off a building . And you could laugh at blighty from afar .
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 11:15
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VIC i shall go back and live in the US permanently .
In the mean time i shall be trying to save cynic.
cynic
- 24 Feb 2016 11:17
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some might say, don't try too hard!
VICTIM
- 24 Feb 2016 11:18
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Is that in Dubai . You a window cleaner jimmy ? .
jimmy b
- 24 Feb 2016 11:27
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That is Tom Cruise doing his own stunt at the burj khalifa .
I never really liked Cruise but i have to give him credit for that ,he was attatched to a wire .
Fred1new
- 24 Feb 2016 11:40
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JB.
Why not pop off back to the states and you should be in time to vote for Donna Trump!
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Chris Carson
- 24 Feb 2016 12:53
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Stan - Re the dog. What were the Police supposed to do in those circumstances? If you were present ...... Stand there with your finger up your arse and watch as a driver swerved to avoid it causing a multiple pile up and loss of human life. Easy to criticise when not present eh!
2517GEORGE
- 24 Feb 2016 12:57
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H that is an interesting poll, 28%. That is a high %age considering they (presumably) vote for a political party whose aim is independence.
2517
Haystack
- 24 Feb 2016 13:25
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It is strange. The poll was done by theTimes.
A number of UKIP supporters are attracted by its stance on immigration. It may be that it is changes to immigration and not leaving the EU that matters to them.