Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

It transpires that mass immigration is vital to Osbourne being able to balance the books by 2020.
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the logic being?

Only by rapidly inflating the population with cheap workers and keeping growth figures up can GO achieve the budget surplus he promised by 2020.
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that's a bit of a tenuous argument, not least because it implies that most immigrants would not only be working, but would also be paying tax .......
yet surely one of the major gripes (by those so inclined) is that a huge % just sponge off the state

you can't have it both ways

Well DC obviously thinks he can. Put aside the fact that there would be some claiming benefits, the infrastructure is at breaking point now, even if every migrant coming to the UK had a job the services could not cope.
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My gripe is not that they all want to come for a free ride ,i am concerned that millions of them are taking jobs that our young people could do .
And please don't anyone say that they don't want to do them ,i know a lot of youngsters and there is real problems out there in the jobs market .

i sort of agree with your last post, though assuredly there are a significant number of immigrants who absolutely work their socks off

as an example
if you take the hand-wash car guys, i bet you'll find nearly all of them of polish or lithuanian or serbo-croat or similar, and that good % of those will also have second(ary) jobs
why do we so rarely see young brits with that sort of initiative and work-ethic?

Registered to work , does it mean they are actually in work or registered to receive any benefits . And 170,000. and they mocked and shamed the only man who had the guts to tell us what would happen .

V ---- I'm not Au Fait with the system but I gather that if you register to work then you are entitled to certain benefits, perhaps someone who knows could enlighten us.
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Vicky,

P68344,

Do you mean this guy!

Freda is that you behind him and he's heard it's Fred1new the man who doesn't vote .

You just gotta love these fat-cat bosses threatening there will be huge job losses if we vote LEAVE, I don't recollect them being concerned when they shifted goodness knows how many jobs away from the UK to India, Czechoslovakia, China et al.
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It just goes to show George that they couldn't give a flying fig about the Nations make up , heritage or where it's heading , as long as they themselves are seen as successful in their role .

And a lot of them are not getting involved in Dave's racket .

Many of the large companies complaining about job losses could move their help lines back from Bombay.

Vicky,

Your b, ancestors were foreigners.

Push off back to where they originated from.

It's not just business either . Sir John Nott says the Miltary leaders who signed a letter of staying in EU are wrong , our security depends on NATO not the EU . article in Telegraph . War hero felt pressured by no 10 , into signing pro europe letter .

I think I'm wasting my time on you Freda , I don't think they came in such vast numbers in such a short space in time , if you are bored why don't you go down to your local doctor or to nearest Hospital , school , job centre and explain to them your concerns and needs for these people .

Vicky,

Pop into you nearest hospital and check the nationalities of doctors. nurses, physios and other staff.

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Also, the strength of a country is not its armed forces but its economy. The willingness of each of the EU countries coming to the aid of one another, not selfish self-centred little isolationist principles as some appear to laud and is something many hope for and has been achieved over the last 25-30years.

Of course, there are problems with the EU but have the guts to face up to them and gradually resolve them rather behave like destructive ill-tempered schoolboy hooligans
who want their own ways.

YA mean like Germany .