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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

ExecLine - 30 Apr 2017 11:15 - 6871 of 12628

Northern Ireland has now been without a government for four months and without any devolved ministers for two months.

From Wednesday, its parliament will be dissolved and it will then be impossible to return to Direct Rule for a period of at least five weeks.

Meanwhile, the EU is 'sticking it to the UK' and are about to offer NI's 'Remainers' a route to 'Remain' by joining Ireland. This will also solve 'the border problem'.

Will this 'EU revenge conspiracy' succeed and bring about the first part of the dis-unification of the UK, all as a penalty for the UK having the cheek to leave the EU?

Watch this space.

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2017 11:37 - 6872 of 12628

Wait until Cornwall petitions to become independent of the rest of the UK.

2517GEORGE - 30 Apr 2017 11:41 - 6873 of 12628

The Cornish will vote overwhelmingly to stay as part of the UK.

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2017 12:35 - 6874 of 12628

I thought there was a Cornish Liberation Front!

MaxK - 30 Apr 2017 14:13 - 6875 of 12628

There is a Cornish Liberation Front, it has two members, Sid and Doris Bonkers.

MaxK - 30 Apr 2017 14:18 - 6876 of 12628

The rest of the world is queueing up Fred..



Australia and Canada urge UK to join ready made trade deals such as Nafta



By Tim Wallace
26 April 2017 • 3:29pm




Britain should look at joining trade blocs around the world as a quick way to boost free trade after Brexit, with top Australian and Canadian officials proposing the idea as an off-the-shelf way to boost the UK and world economies.

Joining Nafta - the group made up of Canada, Mexico and the US - would give British importers and exporters better access to those markets without a difficult negotiation, as long as the UK is happy to sign up to the deal that already exists. Some British MPs raised the idea last year, meaning it now has backers on both sides of the Atlantic.

Similarly, joining the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), the deal which was due to be implemented between 12 countries including Australia and Japan until Donald Trump pulled the US out of the agreement, would cut the cost of trading with key nations across the world.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/04/26/australia-canada-urge-uk-join-ready-made-trade-deals-nafta/

MaxK - 30 Apr 2017 15:23 - 6877 of 12628

EU Deletes UK from Official Map... Two Years Before Brexit


by Tyler Durden

Apr 29, 2017 6:30 PM







Full article: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-29/eu-deletes-uk-official-map-two-years-brexit

Haystack - 30 Apr 2017 15:54 - 6878 of 12628

Cornwall voted 75% leave in the referendum.

Fred1new - 30 Apr 2017 19:35 - 6879 of 12628

Mark,

Have a close look at the said unemployment figures of those countries.

And have a close look at those figures and the effects of ZERO hour employment in the UK.

Check the data which the matron is delaying being publicised or is actually suppressing.

2517GEORGE - 30 Apr 2017 20:09 - 6880 of 12628

Unemployment rates for the under 25's in the likes of Greece, Spain and Portugal are significantly worse than the overall figures for those countries

MaxK - 30 Apr 2017 21:02 - 6881 of 12628

Fred.

I know all about zero hour contracts, being self employed for most of my working life, for me it's a fact of life.

However, the £7 an hour (de facto) self employed lark is a joke, a bad joke imo, and I agree with you, it's hidden unemployment, cos most cant earn enough to live.

ExecLine - 30 Apr 2017 22:13 - 6882 of 12628

Hmmm?

I suppose, that until we have negotiated ourselves out of the EU, that being still in it, we might be able to sign up to some of these 'rest of the world deals' and enjoy the best of both worlds.

ExecLine - 30 Apr 2017 22:22 - 6883 of 12628

However, the £7 an hour (de facto) self employed lark is a joke, a bad joke imo, and I agree with you, it's hidden unemployment, cos most cant earn enough to live.

It pisses me off to have to pay £7 to someone behind the counter for, say merely two coffees and cakes, knowing that if it were the other way round, the person behind the counter would have to: first pay out expenses to get to work, work for more than an hour, pay taxes and then finally pay expenses to get home again, so as to come up with the £7 I'm just lobbing out.

And if they happen to be a young person, all of the same but have to work for more than an hour.

NOTE: To the best of my knowledge, the only way to become wealthy is to first get rid of all time limiting methods of earning money (eg. hourly wages, weekly wages, monthly wages, annual salaries) and get yourself involved in 'Selling Things' - which is not time limiting and therefore has no earnings ceiling on it.

Please correct me if you think I'm wrong.

VICTIM - 01 May 2017 07:20 - 6884 of 12628

I was under the impression that Macron was a bit of a stooge for the EU wally's , but a look at BBC news shows him as saying the EU must change or there will be Frexit . So whether you are disgusted by Le Penn she's making them think over there .

cynic - 01 May 2017 08:54 - 6885 of 12628

disillusionment with brussels - rather than the concept of a european trading bloc - is widespread throughout europe

as i have said since well before the referendum, it is most regrettable (yes i know fred and many millions more fundamentally disagree) that it has been necessary for uk to vote "out" to get any semblance of awareness of the need for fundamantal change

MaxK - 01 May 2017 10:00 - 6886 of 12628

Jean-Claude reports to the boss.



Jean-Claude Juncker says Theresa May is 'deluded' in scathing call with Angela Merkel after Brexit talks




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/01/jean-claude-juncker-says-theresa-may-deluded-scathing-call-angela/

2517GEORGE - 01 May 2017 10:03 - 6887 of 12628

It's not TM that's deluded.

cynic - 01 May 2017 10:25 - 6888 of 12628

don't confuse public polemic with the real stuff behind closed doors
anyone who thinks that remaining 27 member states will be united in their stance to uk is totally naive

Dil - 01 May 2017 11:25 - 6889 of 12628

Junker. can rant and rave as much as he wants but can do sod all about us leaving and it's getting to him.

cynic - 01 May 2017 11:30 - 6890 of 12628

i feel that juncker would be very pleased to see the back of uk, for he sees uk as a very painful thorn in the side of his fiefdom (an odd mixed metaphor i agree)
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