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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


KingKonggb - 04 Jul 2005 16:02 - 6871 of 27111

Just checking if I've got a monkey icon against my name...nahhh...better eat some more bananas!!!

driver - 04 Jul 2005 16:03 - 6872 of 27111

seq
Did you say prat!!! oh sorry techno prat.

Sequestor - 04 Jul 2005 16:42 - 6873 of 27111

I am honest enough and mature enough to admit to being a prat at times too driver, like when I bgt. this dog , still I am short the bitch now, we`ll see

lol

g`luck

bhunt1910 - 04 Jul 2005 16:47 - 6874 of 27111

Hi Seq - going short on SEO - that is a brave move.

I am hoping that it has bottomed now and reached a "support" level. - hope I am using the right terminology.

Then again - I have been horribly wrong in the past.

Baza

ptholden - 04 Jul 2005 16:47 - 6875 of 27111

Seq

If you're short it's bound to go up!!

pth

bhunt1910 - 04 Jul 2005 16:48 - 6876 of 27111

Any one else having problems with accessing the Trades from the watch list ?

Baza

Paperbackwriter - 04 Jul 2005 16:48 - 6877 of 27111

Any icons by my name?

Paperbackwriter - 04 Jul 2005 16:49 - 6878 of 27111

Naa,
I feel neglected...

insiderinside - 04 Jul 2005 17:14 - 6879 of 27111

IC article today says as we all know that all the good news for 2006 is already in the price - notes that Hardman have now downgraded their estimates and show a big loss at prelims in 2006 as they believe SE0 cannot get enough orders by October 31st to avoid prelim loss.

For those who want to see Hardmans latest update on SE0 please see the link below - they try to remain positive - they have too as they were so very positive before - but the negative side is creeping in - I would expect the next update to be again less positive and more negative - as is the trend with EVO too - from buy to add to hold soon and then IMO all will say sell - no orders - lots of talk - no big orders.

http://www.hardmanandco.com/Research/Stanelco_june05.pdf

driver - 04 Jul 2005 17:21 - 6880 of 27111

I thought we got rid of him (didn't know how to negotiate the site)

belisce6 - 04 Jul 2005 18:02 - 6881 of 27111

It does say - (in regards to the restated estimates); "This is a timing difference, not a change in our long term expectations for the product."

driver - 04 Jul 2005 18:12 - 6882 of 27111

Does ii read the stuff he post on here, that link from Hardmans is very positive if I wasn't in SEO I would be after that report.

bosley - 04 Jul 2005 18:21 - 6883 of 27111

well worth a look at hardmans link. also , considering the luck and bad timing of seqs trades in seo , i feel much better now he is short.........:)

bosley - 04 Jul 2005 18:23 - 6884 of 27111

oh driver, i did the link with out your help...... starting to get the hang of this pc nonsense, slowly but surely

NielsJensen - 04 Jul 2005 18:35 - 6885 of 27111

I've had ii squelched (strangled) for a long time, but the new bb revived him/it. I noticed he goes on and on about the patent. Now, seriously, what happens if it turns out a patent for Greenseal cannot be granted? (Or, is it another ii lie that there is no patent????)

ii is now squelched again, so ii; you don't need to comment for my sake.

bosley - 04 Jul 2005 18:40 - 6886 of 27111

according to the hardman report that ii very kindly linked us to , it talks about jvs with other companies regarding what seo would do with biotec. i think it ties up nicely with this bit , borrowed from gf's carclo thread (hope he doesn't mind!)

"The development of water soluble capsules for drug delivery is ongoing with our
partner, Stanelco plc. We are concentrating on increasing the starch content of
the capsules to allow us both to reduce cost and, more importantly, to
facilitate the process of regulatory approval. We are in the process of
presenting the capsule technology to a number of drug development companies"

if memory serves,the dispute with bprg was about the welding of polymers . starch isn't a polymer so ingel could be back on track. or have i missed something?

bhunt1910 - 04 Jul 2005 18:41 - 6887 of 27111

Just found this in the Hardman report - makes interesting reading.

Basically the article is still positive - but they have adjusted their forecasts to take account of the slower than anticipated orders. They are keen to emphasise that this is not a change in expectation - JUST a timing difference.



"...trimming estimates for 2005 to take account of the slower start to anticipated sales of Greanseal. This is a timing difference, not a change in long term expectation.

Sales Declared Profit Adjusted Profit EPS
October m m m p
2004A 1.3 -2.8 -1.2 -0.15
2005E 3.7 -1.1 -1.0 0.06
2006E 19.8 6.2 6.5 0.64
2007E 41.2 23.5 23.9 1.8

bhunt1910 - 04 Jul 2005 18:41 - 6888 of 27111

Just found this in the Hardman report - makes interesting reading.

Basically the article is still positive - but they have adjusted their forecasts to take account of the slower than anticipated orders. They are keen to emphasise that this is not a change in expectation - JUST a timing difference.



"...trimming estimates for 2005 to take account of the slower start to anticipated sales of Greanseal. This is a timing difference, not a change in long term expectation.

Sales Declared Profit Adjusted Profit EPS
October m m m p
2004A 1.3 -2.8 -1.2 -0.15
2005E 3.7 -1.1 -1.0 0.06
2006E 19.8 6.2 6.5 0.64
2007E 41.2 23.5 23.9 1.8 Sorry - tried to copy a table - and it has scrunched all of the figures up - but basically the bottom line is that they estimate in 2007 that sales will be 41.2m with a declared profit of 23.5m and an adjusted profit of 23.9m

I guess I can wait.

Baza

NielsJensen - 04 Jul 2005 18:42 - 6889 of 27111

Bos, I was talking about a patent for Greenseal.

bosley - 04 Jul 2005 18:47 - 6890 of 27111

niels, i didn't realise there was an issue with greenseal?
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