fortitude18
- 19 Feb 2007 08:35
- 690 of 3050
pp,
i cannot allow such baseless and blatant lies go unchallenged. It's not whether you're anti or pro sola it's about having the integrity and decency to post opinions which are based on fact. 'If the order book does not come in'.. they already have contracted orders up to the end of 2008. The company is in negotiations to secure contracts for the extra capacity based LOI's.
You're understanding of this company and the industry in which it operates is not worth the paper it's written on. You're comments regarding this company are simply worthless and not based on fact.
Its people like you who make threads like this a worthless waste of time.
cynic
- 19 Feb 2007 08:40
- 691 of 3050
forti ..... why do you get so heated? ..... surely a young chap like you does not suffer from hyper-blood pressure? ...... you may be right that PP's comment is inaccurate, but i would certainly agree that SOLA's volatility makes it a great stock for trading
PapalPower
- 19 Feb 2007 08:52
- 692 of 3050
errr....what about those "tax rate lies" for a starter.........LOL ;)
Enjoy the ride........thats what its all about, no need for the emotion.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 11:06
- 693 of 3050
When is 'D' day for lock ins PP?.
By the way totaly agree with you about the tax rate. Lets face it, its there in black and white in the admission document.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 11:09
- 694 of 3050
Lifted this from another B/B..
Evils take on the results...
I see that Renesola (SOLA) has published a full year trading statement saying that pre-tax profits will be $22 million. Now this company does not pay tax but on a normal basis that would be earnings of 7.8 million which puts the stock on an historic PE of 72. Renesola has a thin balance sheet and is not a cash generator. It strikes me that a fund raising is inevitable and the valuation is a joke. I remain short.
PapalPower
- 19 Feb 2007 11:34
- 695 of 3050
goldinger, the big holders have 1 year lock in period from listing, so it might all come to a head later this year after the anniversary of the IPO.
PW Carnell
- 19 Feb 2007 11:51
- 696 of 3050
Never miss a cheap cawkwell propaganda trick eh hedgehunter-shouldnt be allowed to get away with it imo.Nice if you could quote lemming to balance it.If Id let those opinions, which you and dozens of other ek nasties endlessly quote influence my mindset at 410, at the end of the year, I and many others would have been considerably poorer.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 11:51
- 697 of 3050
Cheers PP, the 8th of August one for the diary. Can see fireworks the week before ............. and after.
http://www.investegate.co.uk/Article.aspx?id=20060808080000P6C23
cynic
- 19 Feb 2007 12:12
- 698 of 3050
PWC ... you must always make your own decisions .... some will be right and a good few no doubt, wrong! ..... for myself, i have happily traded in and out of SOLA, as levels which i tend to post here .... was certainly glad i bought a tranche the other day at 516, even if cross for having dithered when they were about 500 .... then sold 50% of total holding at 562 ..... too early? .... perhaps, though in my view mere prudence to crystalise profit.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 12:19
- 699 of 3050
Very true Cynic about making ones own decisions. Lets face it these boards are for two way conversation wether you are a bull or a bear of any one stock.
Those trying to repress free speech should be ignored as far as I am concerned and usually have something to hide I have found in my experiences.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 12:30
- 700 of 3050
Back to the lock ins.
It looks to me like one of the big holders becomes eligible to sell into the market after 6 months and therefore that would make it the end of this month....
17. Lock-in Arrangements
Under the terms of lock-in and orderly marketing deeds, which are described more fully in paragraphs 10.1.2,
10.1.3 and 10.1.4 of Part V of this document, each of Ruixin Holdings Ltd and Yuncai Holdings Ltd (through
which each of Mr. Li Xian Shou and Mr. Wu Yun Cai respectively hold their equity interest in the Company) and
Mr. Bai Xiao Shu (together the Locked-In Parties) has undertaken that, subject to certain exceptions, for one
year from Admission they will not sell or otherwise dispose of, or agree to sell or dispose of, any of their
respective interests in Shares held immediately following Admission. The Locked-In Parties have further agreed,
subject to certain exceptions, for one year from the first anniversary of Admission, they will not sell or otherwise
dispose of, or agree to sell or dispose of, any of their respective interests in such Shares unless they have obtained
the consent of Hanson Westhouse (such consent not to be unreasonably withheld or delayed) and such disposal is
effected through Hanson Westhouse, or another broker should Hanson Westhouse fail to arrange any such sale,
with a view to the maintenance of an orderly market in the Shares.
Diverso, whose shareholding is set out in paragraph 7.2 of Part V of this document, has undertaken that, subject
to certain exceptions, for six months from Admission it will not sell or otherwise dispose of, or agree to sell or
dispose of, any of its interest in Shares held prior to Admission.
Diverso has agreed, subject to certain
exceptions, for the six months following expiry of the lock-in period mentioned above, it will not sell or
otherwise dispose of, or agree to sell or dispose of, any of its interest in such Shares unless it has obtained the
consent of Hanson Westhouse (such consent not to be unreasonably withheld or delayed) and such disposal is
effected through Hanson Westhouse or another broker should Hanson Westhouse fail to arrange any such sale,
with a view to the maintenance of an orderly market in the Shares.
Pursuant a share transfer agreement between Mr. Li, Ruixin Holdings Ltd., Mr. Wu, Yuncai Holdings Ltd.,
Diverso and Mr. Bai (further details of which are set out in paragraph 4.8 of Part V of this document), the
transferors have agreed that they will not sell, charge or otherwise dispose of, or agree to sell, charge or dispose
of, such number of their respective Shares in which the beneficial interest has not yet passed to Mr. Bai in
accordance with the terms of the agreement. Mr Bai has also agreed that he will not sell, charge or otherwise
dispose of, or agree to sell, charge or dispose of, the Shares in which the beneficial interest has not been
transferred to him.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 12:32
- 701 of 3050
So it appears Diverso could be selling stock as early as 9 days.
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 12:39
- 702 of 3050
Interesting, Diverso hold 10% of the entire share holding..........
7.2 Substantial Shareholders
7.2.1 Save as disclosed above, the Company is aware of the following persons who, at 2 August 2006
(being the latest practicable date before publication of this document) and following completion
of the Admission and the Placing, hold or will hold 3 per cent. or more of the issued share capital
of the Company:
At the date of Immediately following
this document Admission
Number of Percentage Percentage
Existing of Issued Number of of Issued
Shares Capital Shares Capital
Diverso Management Limited 6,655,559* 10.0% 9,733,986* 9.73%
The Eureka (Euro) Fund Limited 5,000,000 5.00%
Polar Capital Partners Limited 5,000,000 5.00%
Improve Forever Investments Ltd 4,000,000 4.00%
RAB Capital plc (including shares held 3,666,667 3.67%
by RAB Special Situations (Master)
Fund Ltd and RAB New Technologies
(Master) Fund Ltd)
The Eureka Interactive Fund Limited 3,333,333 3.33%
cynic
- 19 Feb 2007 13:16
- 703 of 3050
by implication, you are suggesting that Diverso would want to sell all .... In fact, they may be very happy to hold! .... qui sait?
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 13:20
- 704 of 3050
They also might be thinking the audited accounts hold some gremlings eg, the cash flow statement.
kaysmart
- 19 Feb 2007 14:09
- 705 of 3050
I don't think anyone was expecting this spectacular a share price performance 6 months ago.
Diverso must be sorely tempted to take some profits at the very least.
Kays
goldfinger
- 19 Feb 2007 14:17
- 706 of 3050
KS I think you are right.
The reward for the fund manager must be overwhelming.
PW Carnell
- 19 Feb 2007 16:32
- 707 of 3050
Cynic I always do.Good end to the day .OH dear someones removed all goldfingers posts from the other side.
cynic
- 19 Feb 2007 17:19
- 708 of 3050
KAYSMART .... why? ...... there is a argument at least as strong that one cuts losses but keeps running profits until there is good cause to sell ..... i would posit that this is especially true for fund managers ....
If Cawkwell wants to run a short, then he is of course very welcome to ..... that does not mean he is right .... or wrong for that matter
However, though today's rise was very modest, it implies that the market was generally pretty pleased with the figures, having absorbed a good number (I am sure) of sells from PIs
cynic
- 20 Feb 2007 10:24
- 709 of 3050
sp looks to have stalled so have sold balance ...... if Diverso decide to cash in some chips, then for sure price will dive ..... if they don't, then at worst i may miss out a bit.
if you are looking for a bounce, then keep an eye on 545 (25 dma) and 490 (50 dma), though both still trending quite sharply higher ...... don't forget the brief but very sharp dip to 500 just the other day .... so potentially a number of trading opportunities