Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

the savings time bomb is going to be a big crash in house prices its just when not if

He would make a good president or leader of the Con Brexiters party.

Suit the latter down to the ground.

Maybe of interest to some who are "frightened" by the immigrants:

Interesting Wikipedia pages

Displaced persons camp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displaced_persons_camp


And have a look at the links.

That was in a disorganise Europe.

I have even greater respect for Merkel and her humanitarian sense of decency rather than self-interest expressed by Cameron and crew.

in that case we would all like to hear about your personal experiences in the camps at say calais and lesbos, or wherever else you went

Just go to Germany and ask them about her humanitarian sense of decency and see what you get .

Manuel,

I think you could reflect that it was one of your offspring who went to Lesbos, not yourself.

Perhaps, you could reflect on the experiences of some, many of your kindred who were accepted by different countries when they wished to flee, for political or economic reasons, rather than attempting to be a smart arse.

The information pointed to, at Wikipedia, would seem to me to factual and informative.

it was indeed my younger son, and it affected him greatly
i think he said that only about 60% of the refugees were from war zones

clearly you haven't been to any of the camps, but just wish to be your usual sanctimonious self

as i have said on a number of occasions, there were huge barriers imposed to prevent jewish refugees coming into uk both before, during and after the war ..... but that is history and not especially relevant

i have always said that i have no objection at all to genuine syrian war refugees ex syrian camps being allowed entree .... but there should not and indeed cannot be open-door even for them; there needs to be numerical control for all sorts of pretty obvious reasons

the economic refugees from (pretty) safe regions can go back there as far as i am concerned

i also object strongly to the open-door allowed to eu citizens, especially if they come without any qualifications

Pull up the drawbridge.

"I am OK Jack" comes to mind!

Ask your son!

You are obviously bored , you always start on cynic going through the whole issue all over again Freda .

Is that Fred talking shite again , maybe he should hang out with the luvvies like Jude Law and now Angelina Jolie who no doubt after visiting Greece will fly on her Lear Jet back to paradise .
These people don't live in the real world and i don't know about Fred but i bet he lives way away from it all and will do NOTHING to help .
If i hear that Fred has been making trips to Calais with supplies i'll give him credit for walking the walk however he will meet with many migrants who have been offered decent shelter with heating and water but have refused saying "we want to go to UK".
They won't register there .
Tell Fred to go over but take a bigger security team with him than the prick Jude Law who's team got mugged and their phones stolen.

Oh and TANKER is right on another issue ,we are heading for a housing crash and it can't come too soon ,prices have been pumped up again ,we never learn.
Youngsters will never buy their own home .

Vicky.

Do you have a conception of "humanitarian sense of decency" in regard to the "immigrant problem", or is immediate "self iterest" your guiding principle when considering the problem.

Good luck!

Do these people get paid to do these appeals , if they do they should be shot .

Personally Freda I'm getting past caring the more you help the more will come . I said ask the people of Germany what they think , I'm not German or do I live in Germany .Ask them .

Fred1 is one of those bleeding heart liberals who would have open door immigration flooding the west, with peoples of different religions and cultures to the detriment of the indigenous populations...Turning european countries into third world ghetto's..

Why is it Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other RICH countries in the ME not take any of their fellow 'destitute' muslim brotherhood?

Frau Merkel along with most other weak Western leaders have betrayed their own peoples future and cultures..

VIC ,the Germans have had enough ,only a small minority were shown welcoming them last summer ,the real majority don't want them .
Merkel is on the way out ,we are on the way out of the EU and after that it will collapse as i hope it does ,all borders will be back up and the minority luvvie leftwing idiots can go and seek their multicultural bullshit elsewhere hopefully they can go and live in the middle east.

I agree with you both .

as always, fred doesn't like the answer he is given and as always, he distorts whatever was actually said

for example, he pointedly refuses to accept that i did NOT say or even imply "pull up the drawbridge"


I also doubt that my younger son would advocate open-door for one and all ...... he's got more sense

Manuel.

Many reading your posts may contradict you.

But before responding read information in the Wikipedia article.

I know you are full up with opinions, but the information might modify some of them.

for my part, i could forlornly wish that you read properly what i wrote and then responded accurately, but then you almost never do