Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Vicky.

Do you have a conception of "humanitarian sense of decency" in regard to the "immigrant problem", or is immediate "self iterest" your guiding principle when considering the problem.

Good luck!

Do these people get paid to do these appeals , if they do they should be shot .

Personally Freda I'm getting past caring the more you help the more will come . I said ask the people of Germany what they think , I'm not German or do I live in Germany .Ask them .

Fred1 is one of those bleeding heart liberals who would have open door immigration flooding the west, with peoples of different religions and cultures to the detriment of the indigenous populations...Turning european countries into third world ghetto's..

Why is it Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other RICH countries in the ME not take any of their fellow 'destitute' muslim brotherhood?

Frau Merkel along with most other weak Western leaders have betrayed their own peoples future and cultures..

VIC ,the Germans have had enough ,only a small minority were shown welcoming them last summer ,the real majority don't want them .
Merkel is on the way out ,we are on the way out of the EU and after that it will collapse as i hope it does ,all borders will be back up and the minority luvvie leftwing idiots can go and seek their multicultural bullshit elsewhere hopefully they can go and live in the middle east.

I agree with you both .

as always, fred doesn't like the answer he is given and as always, he distorts whatever was actually said

for example, he pointedly refuses to accept that i did NOT say or even imply "pull up the drawbridge"


I also doubt that my younger son would advocate open-door for one and all ...... he's got more sense

Manuel.

Many reading your posts may contradict you.

But before responding read information in the Wikipedia article.

I know you are full up with opinions, but the information might modify some of them.

for my part, i could forlornly wish that you read properly what i wrote and then responded accurately, but then you almost never do

Personally cynic I don't see why you think you have to explain yourself continually to him .

i have no obligation to, but i have some objection to being misrepresented

btw, i also don't agree with the some of the more xenophobic views expressed on here either

Manuel,

Thankfully, I don't consider myself beholden to you.

Therefore, I do not consider it necessary to make the effort to answer to respond to your requests, but suggest you re-read your own postings, engage your brain and ponder over your own quests.

Also, suggest you check back through the contents of your multiple postings.

you really are the most pompous, supercilious and sanctimonious individual i have ever had the misfortune to come across

Who's xenophobic views are you talking about cynic ,because most of us just don't want our country taken over.

PS you know that i don't know why you bother with him ,i have had him squelched for some time.

Ah well never mind then .Carry on .

don't know off-hand, but certainly it seems that some of you would indeed like to pull up the drawbridge as your buddy fred likes to keep repeating

Hope weren't planning to go out tonight jimmy :0)

cynic - Why don't you just tell Fred to Foxtrot Oscar? everybody else does.

because i choose not to, and every so often a sensible response is worthwhile, even if the subsequent retort may not be

I would like to pull up the drawbridge cynic and set fire to the moat because right now the country i grew up in is finished unless we act fast .
I am totally pissed off with all the left wing do gooders and political correctness .

there's a difference between an open-door policy as fred would advocate, and allowing immigration for those who offer something in return - along the oz points system if you like

from a moral point of view, i think we have an absolute obligation to accept a quantity of genuine war refugees - eg syrians ...... of course many of those will be highly qualified too!
not sure that 20,000 over 5 years is reasonable, but 200,000 would be too many i think and of course, 2,000,000 totally preposterous