Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays, Hays,

Quick, hurry down to Con Party HQ and ask for the spin on IDS and the Tory party split.

What about panty pads , is this discrimination .

Go north for Easter hols, Cameron tells Britons, but he's off to Lanzarote


PM made call to boost tourism in region hit by winter floods, but it has emerged the Camerons will holiday in Canaries instead


Heather Stewart and Rowena Mason

Friday 18 March 2016 16.23 GMT



The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, whose Cumbrian constituency was hit hard by the floods, said: “The prime minister previously said people should visit the north, but like virtually everything that comes out of his mouth what he actually meant was everyone else and not himself.



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/18/go-north-for-easter-hols-cameron-tells-britons-but-hes-off-to-lanzarote

Who will go first, Osborne or Tampon Dave?

Brave of Ian to quit over his beliefs ,now he can concentrate on helping to get us out of the EU .

BELIEFS???????????

OPPORTUNISTIC more likely?

As one would expect from the present con artists in the cabinet!

"Who will go first, Osborne or Tampon Dave"

Its 'bleeding' obvious...'Call me Dave' !! once the results come back as a LEAVE vote, and with this knockout blow from IDS, closely followed by 'Daves' sidekick and fellow europhile sycophant Osborne ........

Even in the unlikely event of an out result in the referendum, Cameron will stay until just before the election.

Don't be to sure on that score Haystacks, people arn't totally blind and stupid and can see whats happening and IS going to happen if there's a stay in vote.

As for 'DAVE', he'l be gone the moment the LEAVE vote results come in....DEAD MAN WALKING!!...

hay dave the walking dead man a liar has fcuked up the party with all is lies
kissing the eu back sides
Cameron the biggest scumbag ever to be pm
and yes I am a right wing tory Cameron is not he is just looking for is move into ius eu seat

so the france to get the coward who run .thousands of muslims protected the scum
round them up and deport the scum . this tells the world you can never ever trust a MUSLIM THE ARE LIARS AND WILL STICK THE KNIFE IN YOUR BACK

I COULD MAKE HIM TALK BIG TIME HE WOULD NOT LIKE MY WAY

NOW WE HAVE FAKE VETERANS YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT UP

Cameron said in January and this month that he would remain as PM if we vote out.

Hays,

But how long will Tampon Dave stay and who the hell would want to be PM if the vote is for exit?

5-10 years of confusion.

I think JB and Granny will be disappointed and the more sensible will vote to stay in the EU.

But follow the pound!

Stay or leave Freddy Boy be at least another ten years before that left wing shite you support will get even a sniff of governing this country. Long live Jezza!

Labour should be hurting the Tories, but Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are too rubbish at politics
John McDonnell's feeble response to George Osborne's Budget shows yet again how Mr Corbyn's Labour struggles to lay a hand on the Government


Asa Bennett By Asa Bennett1:48PM GMT 17 Mar 2016 CommentsComment
The gloss is coming off George Osborne's Budget, with rumblings of concern among Tory backbenchers about his sugar tax and planned disability benefit cuts, while the Chancellor had to concede that he is borrowing £30 biliion more than originally planned. Even he isn't certain that it's possible to get the books in order as he outlined in the Budget, having just a "50/50 shot" of hitting his surplus target according to the Office for Budget Responsibility.
Such a Budget should give the Opposition a lot to go on, but John McDonnell's response was curiously lax. The Shadow Chancellor veered between making polite noises of discontent about things he didn't like, and wheeling out pointed soundbites. For a man who once promised to "swim through vomit" to vote against the Government's welfare cuts, Mr McDonnell was decidedly muted. His attack on the disability benefit cuts was confused, at one point insisting he would "not make party politics of this", but seconds later calling the move "cruel and unnecessary". The most passionate critique he could offer was to lambast "press release politics" and "the politics of spin and stunts".
"We’re not going to come back and say we are supporting cuts. No."
John McDonnell
Despite his aversion to "spin", John McDonnell was more than happy to sweve simple questions posed by Tory MPs - namely what he would do in the Treasury. The Shadow Chancellor repeatedly refused to say how much more he would borrow, but he has already indicated enough about his intended approach. Mr McDonnell has already promised to borrow billions more and to cut absolutely nothing, saying: "We’re not going to come back and say we are supporting cuts. No.” At the same time, he promised with a straight face that he would exert "iron discipline" over day-to-day spending as Chancellor. He even had a "fiscal credibility rule" to help ensure this, although a former Labour adviser pointed out that it was a rehash of his predecessor Ed Balls' flagship policy.
Mr Balls may be a smart man, but he is not an ideal person to copy given that voters decisively chose to stop him from taking over at the Treasury last year.


Mr McDonnell's lack of originality and coyness about his own agenda has done little to endear him to voters as a potential custodian of the nation's finances. This matters hugely to Labour's potential under Jeremy Corbyn as no party leader has ever become PM whilst trailing in the polls in leadership credentials and economic competence.
A recent poll by Ipsos MORI laid bare how voters struggle to take Labour seriously, finding that they tend to think George Osborne would be a much more capable Chancellor (46 per cent) than John McDonnell (29 per cent). The Shadow Chancellor's fans would argue that such a finding is inevitable given that voters would find it much easier to imagine the current Chancellor in the role, than someone aspiring to the position. However, Ed Balls showed that it is possible to run the Conservatives close in these stakes, being just five points behind him in 2013, lifted no doubt by the hit Mr Osborne suffered to his reputation from the "omnishambles" Budget.
The fact John McDonnell is 17 points behind the Chancellor in terms of economic credibility is all the more striking when looking at how voters feel the economy is doing under his management.

When voters were asked if the general economic condition of the country will improve, stay the same, or get worse over the next 12 months, 44 per cent said it would decline, whereas only one in four (25 per cent) said it would improve. The political climate is very choppy for George Osborne, but when voters consider who the alternative to him is, they remain firmly behind him.
Mr McDonnell's boss can hardly claim to be doing better job winning voters around. Voters started out feeling kind towards Jeremy Corbyn when he took over - 33 per cent saying they were satisfied with him and 36 per cent said dissatisfied (for a net disatisfaction rating of 3 per cent).

But by mid-December, many voters had come to the conclusion that he was a failure, with 50 per cent describing themselves as dissatisfied with his performance (a net dissatisfaction rating of -17). The pronounced disaste among voters has got even worse, with Ipsos MORI finding in February that 21 per cent more voters said they were dissatisfied with him than satisfied, a greater level of net dissatisfaction than David Cameron received. This should unnerve Mr Corbyn's supporters, as the Prime Minister has reached a net dissatisfaction rating of -15 after six years running the Government, while the Labour leader took four months to fall lower in public esteem.
Jeremy Corbyn has still yet to work out how to properly hold the Government to account. The biggest danger to George Osborne over his Budget is coming from dissenters in his own party rather than anything the Oppostion Leader - or his Shadow Chancellor - might say. Labour has effectively abandoned the role of scrutinising the Chancellor to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, which may be unsurprising given that all Mr Corbyn can offer is a critique is that he isn't spending enough.
The Labour leadership is floundering fast, and few can deny it given the state of public opinion. John McDonnell and his boss can't work out what they would do in power, and that's why they're struggling to convince voters that they can be trusted with the economy. George Osborne could not have dreamt of better enemies to oppose him this week.

Early 2016
A vote on the renewal of Trident exposes deep divisions in the party over defence. Mr Corbyn's attempt to whip MPs goes against promises made to his shadow cabinet ministers when they took up the posts. While a free vote is eventually agreed there are frontbench resignations over the saga.
May 2016
Scottish Labour sinks to a dismal election defeat as SNP secures an increased majority in Holyrood elections, undermining the argument that Mr Corbyn's left-wing politics could trigger a comeback north of the border. Labour also loses English council seats and - possibly - the London Mayoral election. Critics argue Mr Corbyn's unelectability has been proved.
Summer 2016
Mr Corbyn get a reprieve as political journalists turn their focus to the EU referendum battle. Splits within the Tories, spats between the campaign teams and polls predicting Brexit dominate ahead of an expected vote later in the year.
Autumn 2016
The Tories reveal the initial conclusions of their boundary review, which will see the number of seats drop by 50 to 600 for the next election. Naming Labour MPs in the firing line forces concern about deselection to the forefront, with moderates fearing they will be overlooked for left-wing candidates.
Spring 2017
As Mr Corbyn enters his third calendar year in charge there is no sign of a boost in the polls. Labour continues to trail far behind the Tories - defying hopes of a mid-term lull - while Mr Corbyn's personal polling fails to turn a corner. Shadow ministers make coded reference to their discontent own public.
May 2017
After weeks of building pressure over 'make or break' council elections, Mr Corbyn's Labour fails to make a serious breakthrough - and even loses some key seats in the party's heartland. Leadership rivals go public with their frustration while privately gathering the 47 MP signatures needed to trigger a contest. Mr Corbyn stands again - but by now the membership base has change. Everything is to play for.

Any poll suggesting Jeremy Corbyn's doing well will make George Osborne laugh his head off
Even Ed Miliband enjoyed a double-digit lead at this point in the last parliament


By Tom Harris10:42AM GMT 18 Mar 2016
Remember this day. For this is the day that Labour won the 2020 general election.
Actually, it was yesterday, when the latest YouGov poll gave Labour – led by the nation’s favourite West-botherer – an astronomical one-point lead over the Tory party.
This followed an ICM poll a couple of days earlier by ICM which put the two parties neck-and-neck, on 36 per cent each – a poll which even ICM acknowledged might come to be described as a “rogue”.
But apparently not.


So the game’s up for Cameron, Osborne, Boris and the rest. They’ve had a good innings, though. Nothing to complain about. By 2020 they’ll have been in government for ten years, and that’s probably longer than Dave thought he’d get when he stood outside Number 10 on that cold dark night in May 2010 and announced that from hereon in, Nick Clegg was to blame for everything.
I expect Osborne will want to invite John McDonnell into the flat at Number 11 to let him measure up for curtains and go through the books – why leave it until the last minute, after all? Sam and the kids can show Jeremy the back garden, shift the trampoline and the Wendy house to let the diggers in to build the Prime Minister Designate a new allotment.
After all, when the leader of an opposition party takes his party to such a significant lead after six months in the job, the momentum is pretty irreversible, yeah?
No.


The Tories, older readers might recall, had a bad decade back in the ’90s. Following “Black Wednesday” in September 1992, when Britain was ignominiously invited to sling its hook from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM), John Major’s party never enjoyed a poll lead again.
Major’s successor, grinning baseball hat fashion model and lager-enthused Yorkshireman William Hague didn’t have much more luck.
Until September 2000, that is.
I remember that very well, because the selection meeting of Cathcart Labour Party was scheduled to take place then – right in the middle of the fuel crisis. That was when lorry drivers took unofficial and devastating action against the government’s fuel taxation policies by blockading refineries up and down the country. Queues of angry motorists formed at every petrol station, workers were advised to use their cars for only essential journeys. At one point I was extremely nervous that I might not have enough petrol in my car to get me to the selection meeting (I didn’t care if I ran out of fuel on the way back).


The important point to remember is that at that point, in the middle of the most severe political crisis the new Labour government had yet faced, the Conservatives, briefly, took a two-point lead in the polls.
Now, remind me – how did the following year’s general election work out for Hague? Ah, yes, I seem to remember: he barely increased his paltry number of MPs and resigned when it became clear that Blair’s majority was pretty much the same as it had been four years earlier – about 180.
But this week’s polls are good for Corbyn, while being very, very bad for Labour. Nervous, disloyal Labour MPs (pretty much all of them, then) will now perhaps think twice about mounting a challenge to the Bearded One, mindful of the tendency among their local activists towards unjustified optimism. Why get rid of Jeremy when he’s doing so well, they will shout at their local Member. Loudly.

Why indeed? Apart from the fact that even Ed Miliband enjoyed a double-digit lead at this point in the last parliament and still went down to a crushing defeat in 2015. Even Michael Foot’s ratings could give Jeremy’s a Chinese burn and shove their head down the toilet bowl.
So while Jeremy’s position is likely to be strengthened, Labour’s hopes of survival as a political force, consequently, just took another knock.
Which means these polls are good news for someone else. Two other people, in fact. Didn’t you wonder why Boris and George looked so cheerful this morning?